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In and around the Adelaide CBD I'm talking about. I felt like there were much more cameras for the area compared to Sydney. Lower limits as well, some Inner city streets were 40.....
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If there was not a dollar to made it would be stuck in the too hard, too expensive to fix basket like everything else. There are so many sucked in by it, it truly is astounding. If it actually COST Billions to show a concern ...... you seriously believe they would be showing this concern? To say yes would be truly delusional. Win win for the g'ment and lets those that love toeing this line have a continual p!ssing and moaning on here session. Goes both ways but I am sure that most here have more than had enough of the crap as well. And yes I like most here filled it out I would say ....... SORRY ....... bit political but to topic. Just am fed up with what is happening as everything that is introduced as a 'fix' funnily enough just happens to add bucket loads more to the revenue .....
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Filled out the survey. Stupid preface to each question invalidates the actual results as it makes it a leading question. Whoever wrote the survey should be flogged for making it a propaganda tool, not an actual useful survey with useable results.
As an example of leading questions: 98% of politicans have a law degree. Lawyers are trained in twisting an argument to suit their own purposes, rather than actually express the truth. Should lawyers be banned from becoming politicians a) Yes b) No. The results are meaningless.
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Tassie is going to be a test bed for a national 90khp limit.
http://www.premier.tas.gov.au/media_...to_save_lives2 http://blogs.abc.net.au/tasmania/201...-changes-.html http://www.saferroads.tas.gov.au/ Its coming guys. Better get used to it. Or move to the NT.
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if the tac's scare campaign & revenue raising were working, then vic road toll would not be higher atm than it was at the same time last year.
the TAC is still in strife over the insulting speed ad that shows a biker being killed by a car disobeying a stop sign - but its the bikers fault! the moron who wants front plates is the guy in charge of speed cameras. He dismissed all the current research against front plates as "not valid" - purely because it doesnt support his stance. It is purely so the bike cannot escape a fine. |
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Here's an interesting British web page - all sounds uncannily familar. Worth reading right through:
http://citytransport.info/Frame.htm Click on the link "Speed" at the bottom right-hand corner of the track diagram and then click the link at the bottom of the preface page. |
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This is the problem with the drivers these days - they don't know how to read the road and drive to the conditions. You can't have a speed advisory sign on every corner over here, so you adjust your driving style to suit. What you are saying is that someone else needs to tell you how fast to go around a certain corner, which perpetuates the problem of the nanny state. The other problem with that thinking is that when you have ice on the roads, any speed is too fast
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I'm talking about signage that indicates a corner is there at all in blind situations. |
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In the last 20 years I have not felt the need to go higher than 140 in Vic (or any other Eastern state), with the only exception being Easternats. Quote:
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The last question shows the main revenue objective...
"Would you like to be emailed when other Justice related surveys are held?" |
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![]() 40 years driving means nothing. Every week during summer we see tourists who have never gone around a corner without a warning sign and end up in the bush. Why do you want the nanny state to tell you that the next corner might be dangerous, or that it might have ice on it, or there could be moss on it, or there could be a roo on the orad, or a tree over it, or..... If you can't see around the corner, slow down so you can safely get around it.
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I put my two bobs in here -
http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchive...ic_Gestapo.htm
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How about if we put a up a sign at entry points to Tasmania saying "If you are not from here, and can't assess the roads with your own eyes, please use a bus". There would not be enough steel poles in production to put up an advisory sign for every difficult corner, for every bit of road affected by adverse conditions, or ones that are just unsafe. Therefore the responsibility comes back to the driver. This is where I think the fundamental problem of modern road safety lies. You think the state should tell you how fast, how dangerous, whether there is a dip in the road, or to look out for ducks crossing. This leads to an overly restrictive regime with harsh penalties for disobeying a sign (see speeding penalties). This has a global result in dimming the collective ability to be able to modulate their driving according to the conditions, hence why we see people like you crashing every week down here. I prefer personal responsibility for my driving, rather than a dumbing down of everyone.
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I'll leave the unproductive Tasmanian conversation with the observation that at one point I slowed down at a blind, uncontrolled level crossing to check for trains and I was overtaken on the crossing by a local at high speed who wouldn't have had the the time to look either left or right for trains. What's the numberplate slogan for Tasmania - the gambling state?
Crashing? I haven't had an accident in 40 years in about a million km of driving all round Australia, the US and Europe. Go wind somebody else up! ![]() |
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Did the survey, I do feel showing your hand at the start (nominating your driving status ie cyclist, motorcyclist etc) will effect the way they look the results. The 140 speed limt and drink/drug driving are good issues to look at but the hi vis vest and the such is rubbish. Will I ever ride in a hi vis? No F%^kn way!
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Guess what the outcome was........ ZERO accidents. Now think about why that is. |
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As for the rial line - that had me crack up. Local knowledge would help, but we have many rail crossing for a line that does not have any trains running on it. You just made yourself a mobile roadblock, hence why you were overtaken at speed. The number plate slogan - it is "Tasmania - Your natural state". I don't know what your gambling reference is to. As for not crashing in 40 years - good on you. I know lots of really old people who say exactly the same thing.
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A couple of points in response. The rail line I crossed in Tasmania was a main line in use by freight. If a rail crossing is signposted there is a legal requirement to drive as though the line is live. If it's no longer live the rail and road authorities will remove the controls. Only then can you speed across it without looking.
Secondly, I currently spend a lot of my time driving on narrow rural roads with no centre line and mostly no curve or speed advisorys. An advisory is not nannying, it's just helpful. I know that road accidents don't increase without advisory signs, they also don't increase with them. Nannying, this thread, is about compulsion, not being advisory. |
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What if somebody mischievously created a convincing looking speed limit sign that said 130 and stuck that over the front of the originals. Would the average driver be then allowed to drive at said 'speed limit'?
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