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Old 26-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #61
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Default Re: True test of the red faith - Holden Volt

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But I'd like to know how suddenly the weight of the car no longer matters.
Electric motors are more efficient then petrol motors. So you can do more with less.

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Similar to diesel electric trains and this big baby.
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Funny thing is the most popular mining trucks are still mechanically driven. Only in the coal mines are diesel electric trucks the winner.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:22 PM   #62
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I've got to say I love these Volt ads. Everytime I see one on TV I think I want one*... it's nothing to do with the product - but the implication of the car and Australia being forward looking is inspiring (even though (I think?) the car is fully imported and had no development done here). The background music that sounds like a movie sore is great too. The whole thing kind of reminds me of Apple's Think Different campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxB66FDMfus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxIi25-LSek

Wish I was talking about a Ford ad.

*Note - Even if it wasn't grossly overpriced no way would I trade in the GS on one
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Old 28-07-2012, 07:18 PM   #63
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Seems to me like they're appealing to high-end buyers by selling it at a high price, marketers actually do this, they feed off the "it's expensive, it must be good" frame of mind.
You watch all the chumps secure their orders and head to the nearest beach town wearing a Holden cap.
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Old 28-07-2012, 07:23 PM   #64
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Seems to me like they're appealing to high-end buyers by selling it at a high price, marketers actually do this, they feed off the "it's expensive, it must be good" frame of mind.
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Old 28-07-2012, 09:57 PM   #65
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Seems to me like they're appealing to high-end buyers by selling it at a high price, marketers actually do this, they feed off the "it's expensive, it must be good" frame of mind.
You watch all the chumps secure their orders and head to the nearest beach town wearing a Holden cap.
They are selling it at such a high price cause its a bloody expensive vehicle, even in the US.

And Holden have also said they will lose money on every one they sell, so they aren't profiteering on them. New technology costs money.
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Old 29-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #66
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They are selling it at such a high price cause its a bloody expensive vehicle, even in the US.

And Holden have also said they will lose money on every one they sell, so they aren't profiteering on them. New technology costs money.
And they wonder why the comapny isnt making money and they have their hand out for assitance

If i sell a product at a lose, i wonder if i can get some government assistance
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Old 29-07-2012, 12:25 PM   #67
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And they wonder why the comapny isnt making money and they have their hand out for assitance

If i sell a product at a lose, i wonder if i can get some government assistance
It's called brand-building and is just as old as marketing itself.

The Prius was originally sold at a loss, but Toyota saw the halo benefits to the rest of the Toyota range - now Toyota is seen as one of the greenest car brands around and in the process become the world's largest automotive producer.
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Only thing i don't like about the Volt is how it looks like a attempt a futurism...

Wouldn't it have been cheaper, easier and possibly better to just keep the Cruze styling?
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But then you won't get the hippies buying it because it won't obviously be a hybrid.
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Old 29-07-2012, 02:36 PM   #70
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If you look around, the engine does charge the battery MOST of the time. GM have admitted however, that under certain circumstances the IC engine WILL engage the driveline and power the vehicle directly.
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If you look around, the engine does charge the battery MOST of the time. GM have admitted however, that under certain circumstances the IC engine WILL engage the driveline and power the vehicle directly.
Heavy acceleration or steep incline.

i haven't driven a Volt, except the Chevy Volt in the Forza 4 xbox game.
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