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Old 25-04-2012, 10:38 AM   #31
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Default Re: FG Falcon or Toyota Aurion

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the real world difference between falcon and aurion are pretty small. Buying a car should make you feel good, things like australian-made may actually mean the difference of which one you buy.
You have obviously never driven both then , they are light years apart .
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Old 25-04-2012, 10:39 AM   #32
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Toyota Camry.
Transport for those who have given up on life!

Or

Toyota Camry.
A pile of crap no matter what name they put on the boot!

Toyota , because your fridge and washing machine dont have wheels .
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:19 AM   #33
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Ok, , , what about spending $20k as a max.

I notice that the FG is very hard to get as a 6 speed under $20k. ?
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:29 AM   #34
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I don't want to be seen against Toyota or their Aurion/Camry here...
The Falcon and Aurion are definitely different cars, one of them is made to get you from A to B and the other is made to get you from A to B but with some fun in between. I've driven both and at the end of the day I'd be in an FG.
Everyone has their own opinion but I have nothing at all against Toyota, they make (or made) great cars...
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:34 AM   #35
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if you think the Aurion is a boring car to drive, i'll take you for a hit

i found it much better to drive around the streets than a Falcon, the Falcon was too big and heavy and a nugget down low. once it gets going its alright, and its sooooo much more comfortabler if you have to drive over an hour, the Aurion you get a little restless in after that, and the backseat in the Aurion ZR6 forget about long drives

it may come down to the models that people have driven. in my ZR6 i have no/very minimal torque steer, i always drive 1 handed i have never had the thing get away from me yet.
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:38 AM   #36
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Thanks for the input guys....

I have a few questions !

What year did the FG XT come with a 6 speed ?

Do all the FG G6's come with the 6 speed ?

thanks

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Old 25-04-2012, 12:13 PM   #37
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Had an FG and hied an Avalon both were great. Ford are doing some great prices at the moment.
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Old 25-04-2012, 12:27 PM   #38
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Thanks for the input guys....

I have a few questions !

What year did the FG XT come with a 6 speed ?

Do all the FG G6's come with the 6 speed ?

thanks

Craig
the zf6spd was an option right from the start, and std mid 2010 when euro 4 emissions were brought in.
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Old 25-04-2012, 12:30 PM   #39
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and until euro 4 only xr6t/g6e/g6et had the zf std.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:35 AM   #40
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I had a Aurion as a hire car, it was absolute rubbish, hated it.

No low down torque
Typical FWD weirdness/tugging through the steering
Fake interior look
Large turning circle
Floating suspension
Goose neck hinges in the boot.

IMMEDIATLY returned to Hertz, and they swapped it over for a BRAND NEW Toyota Rav4, now that was a nice vehicle.

Falcon all-the-way, this Toyota is a poor thing for mine.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:44 AM   #41
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I have unfortunately driven a few Aurions, as often when we book a “Falcon or equivalent,” the hire company sticks us with an Aurion.

Let’s be clear, the Aurion is simply a V6 Camry. Furthermore, in their endeavours to attain the boastful 200kw they have delivered a typical Toyota “performance” engine with comparatively little lowdown torque. Combine that with their lacklustre transmission and lack of handling, and it’s a menace.

There’s nothing wrong with a Camry. If you want a roomy, well-built, reliable, safe 4-pot for your wife and kids, with good resale, then Camry is still top of the list. The 4-pot is none too shabby, and still reasonably economical. Hybrid option is interesting. In fact if you don’t want the extra size, performance, and handling of a Falcon, then the Camry is a decent family car.

The Aurion is just pointless. If you want (or need) the performance that the 200kw promises, you will be sorely disappointed by the high-revving buzzbox engine, the lack of handling, and general inability to get the power to the road. I honestly would not even consider it. Looking at a sedan for the Missus, it would be Camry v Mondeo (and only because I am a Ford tragic.) For me (since I do WANT the performance of that I6) it would be the Falcon hands down.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:50 AM   #42
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Here's a simple test.

Are you below 65? Buy the falcon

Are you above 65? Buy the Camry
That's unfair and highly offensive.


My Dad did not buy his Camry until he was well over 70.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:14 AM   #43
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Aurion and the Falcon have completely different characteristics. A few years back I had a rental Aurion for two weeks while holidaying in Tasmania. We had five adults and a full set of luggage. At the time, my work vehicle was a G6E. So, I had sufficient back to back experience in both. My thoughts were thus;

*V6 engine was probably the best part of the car, but lacked bottom down torque
*automatic gearbox couldn’t decide what gear it wanted to be in, and clunked and thunked all the time (30K on the odometer for a hire vehicle might have been a tough ask as well)
*fuel economy was around 2l/100km worst in the Aurion than in the G6E
*torque steer in the Aurion was atrocious
*with five adults on board, the Aurion handled like a wet sponge, with of rolling around on its axis. It didn’t inspire any confidence in wet/windy conditions that we struck.
*cruise control was pathetic, with very wide limits on the control system
*dashboard lighting was such that it interfered with my night vision (way too bright and excessively “white” in colour)

If you decide that you really want a Toyota and don’t need heavy towing duties, I would strongly suggest considering a Camry instead. The smaller engine allows better weight distribution and is a better match for the chassis. You don’t lose anything in cabin space and the boot is still very practical (even if it still has goose neck hinges).
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:43 PM   #44
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if in doubt hire each one for a day or 2 and see what you feel suits you best.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:46 PM   #45
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The Aurion is not exactly what you'd call 'dynamically competent'. It's more like 'a rather sad excuse for a car'.
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