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Old 03-05-2011, 12:59 PM   #1
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Exclamation New Focus No Turbo!!!

Ford reveals Focus engine line-up for Australia - but clever new EcoBoost engine is absent.

Ford's next-generation Focus small car will go on sale in Australia next August without the new model's most advanced engine.

The high-tech 'EcoBoost' 1.6-litre turbocharged engine - which produces 135kW of power and 270Nm of torque while sipping only 5.0L/100km - has been left off the list for Australia, along with the attractive station wagon variant.

It means the new Focus will go up against rivals such as the Volkswagen Golf and Holden Cruze that offer effective small-capacity turbo petrol engines.


Instead, Ford Australia this week confirmed the new Focus will be offered locally with a choice of four-door sedan or five-door hatchback body styles, and three engines, including a new 2.0-litre direct injection petrol unit producing an estimated 120kW of power and 200Nm of torque, with consumption estimated to be less than 8.0L/100km (based on the US model's figures). Transmission choices are a five-speed manual or six-speed 'Powershift' dual-clutch automatic transmission.

Other engines include an updated version of the existing 2.0-litre turbo diesel which is expected to produce 120kW/350Nm (up from the current diesel's 100kW/320Nm output), with consumption to dip even lower than the current oil-burner's 5.9L/100km. Gearboxes include a six-speed manual and optional Powershift transmission. The third choice is an efficiency-focused 1.6-litre petrol engine - similar to the one used in the smaller Fiesta city car - which is expected to return a consumption figure of less than 7.0L/100km.

Ford Australia spokesman Justin Lacy says the EcoBoost engine - which has received rave reviews in Europe - may come at a later date, and says the wagon version could be considered if there is demand.

Ford says there will be a number of trim levels available, including the range-topping Titanium badge for the first time on a Focus. According to the company, the top-end offering will "offer luxury levels of convenience and comfort that will please buyers shifting from larger and luxury-class vehicles".

The front-wheel-drive Focus will feature a clever new torque vectoring system that is designed to aid front-end traction and is said to give the car a sportier feel.

Details of what technologies will be available inside the new Focus haven't yet been made public, though clever touches such as a WiFi hotspot and Bluetooth and iPod connectivity are expected.

Pricing for the next-gen Focus is likely to be revealed around June, with Ford Australia saying the new model isn't likely to see significant change in either direction.

Australia's Focus supply will initially come from Europe but is expected to switch to the cheaper manufacturing source of Thailand.

My comment ..FORD again, miscalculate!!! Why cann't FORD read the market?????????????

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Old 03-05-2011, 01:11 PM   #2
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My comment ..FORD again, miscalculate!!! Why cann't FORD read the market?????????????
Please explain what Ford has 'miscalculated' and why they haven't read the market - the TDCi motor quite clearly has excellent fuel consumption almost equal to the Ecoboost and it is small capacity TD motors that have resonated with the buyers. Just because Holden do something, doesn't mean to say Ford should blindly follow. Will Ecoboost sell better than diesel? Unlikely, and Ford have quite clearly said that it could come anyway for those who are obsessed with Ecoboost.

But it is a Drive article after all, and I notice they have done a pretty good job at turning a a good news story (release of an hotly anticipated new car) into a negative nancy article.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:13 PM   #3
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But it is a Drive article after all, and I notice they have done a pretty good job at turning a a good news story (release of an hotly anticipated new car) into a negative nancy article.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:19 PM   #4
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Remember the new Focus will initially come from Germany. After the Thai plant is all tooled up for the new model, who knows what model/s we may get.

It would be good to see the petrol 1.6 (Ecoboost), 2.0 petrol and diesel, and the 2.0 (Ecoboost) as the new ST/XR4(?).
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:20 PM   #5
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Default Re: New Focus No Turbo!!!

It will happen eventually with Ford's goal of something like 90% availability for an EcoBoost engine across its entire lineup.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: New Focus No Turbo!!!

Remember P-platers can't drive the turbo version, and as its more powerful then the 2.0L N/A its probably not eligable for an exemption.

The Focus with the EB engine may not be completely ADR complient at this point in addition to this.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:05 PM   #7
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I remember a US comparison between the 2.0 DI Focus and the 1.4 DI Turbo Cruze
that was done recently by MotorTrend a very GM friendly publication...]Article here...

In that article, the Focus beat the Cruze in almost every department but because the
new Focus was so refined and had lost some of the steering and road feed back,
the judging panel said the result was too close to call.....

F Me dead, I think we can expect the same type of blubbing from Drive,
everyone knows that the Ford has to be so much better than a GM to
even gain respect of these so called experts.

"Balanced reports" should hit the bin and be replaced by impartial reporting,
what a change that would make not having a GM super salesman in your ear...

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Old 03-05-2011, 06:10 PM   #8
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I remember a US comparison between the 2.0 DI Focus and the 1.4 DI Turbo Cruze
that was done recently by AutoTrend a very GM friendly publication.

In that article, the Focus beat the Cruze in almost every department but because the
new Focus was so refined and had lost some of the steering and road feed back,
the judging panel said the result was too close to call.....

F Me dead, I think we can expect the same type of blubbing from Drive,
everyone knows that the Ford has to be so much better than a GM to
even gain respect of these so called experts.

"Balanced reports" should hit the bin and be replaced by impartial reporting,
what a change that would make not having a GM super salesman in your ear...

The comparo is in the new 2011 focus thread in the focus section.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:11 PM   #9
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Thats what the ST is for.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:22 PM   #10
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The comparo is in the new 2011 focus thread in the focus section.
Thanks and yeah I know, I added the link up here just so people don't have to thread jump.

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The point I'm making is that Focus Titanium will be a great car even with the 2.0DI engine.
Sure, the 1.6 Ecoboost engine would be better but it's not essential at the moment
and as said above, the 2.0 ST or XR4T or whatever Ford chose to call it will be streets
ahead of anything Holden has.

Focus also has a great line of fuel efficient diesel versions and the Prius beating Econetic is on its way....
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:26 PM   #11
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Default Re: New Focus No Turbo!!!

I'm thinking about seeing how much I get for trade-in on my TDCI LV for a TDCI Gen III Focus.

But I have to get rid of my driving lights and replace the front lower grille before I attempt a trade-in price.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:22 PM   #12
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Default Re: New Focus No Turbo!!!

That's just Drive looking for the first negative they can find and making it a headline.


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