Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29-04-2011, 12:57 PM   #1
grandpa_spec_F6
AFF Whore
 
grandpa_spec_F6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: In between gas stations
Posts: 2,246
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default What will be the next "Classic"

So I have been talking with mates and the topic of classic cars came up.

For instance, XA, XB and XC coups could be had for buckleys going back 10 - 15 years ago, now you can't even buy a shell for less thank $10K.

What does everyone think the next "Classic" car will be?

__________________
Favorite Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Damo View Post
My GMC Sierra is banned under Victoria's high powered vehicle laws, and its a 4082kg apartment complex on wheels.
Current Ride: Not a falcon, the struggle is real
grandpa_spec_F6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 01:07 PM   #2
trippytaka
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
trippytaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,421
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_au
So I have been talking with mates and the topic of classic cars came up.

For instance, XA, XB and XC coups could be had for buckleys going back 10 - 15 years ago, now you can't even buy a shell for less thank $10K.

What does everyone think the next "Classic" car will be?
Toyota Rukus!
trippytaka is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 01:11 PM   #3
GTP-814
love the quad cams
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Baulkham Hills
Posts: 1,490
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

XB/XC hardtops, as very hard to find in good condition
GTP-814 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #4
Jim Goose
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions??

Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole....
Jim Goose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #5
buggo
[BU66OS]
 
buggo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Central Coast NSW
Posts: 1,719
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

I think the early XR6/8's (EB-EL)will become valuble in a decade or two. I think alot will be restored as old X-series cars fade away into history.
__________________
FG XR6 Turbo Nitro

BA XR8 Manual
buggo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 01:48 PM   #6
blk6t
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 455
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

The Falcon...
__________________
FG GT...Supercharged Bliss
blk6t is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:03 PM   #7
Tucool
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Tucool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 671
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

I reckon the B series was a huge leap forward for Ford, it will come from one of those variants..... 40th GT for me.
__________________
The Stable.

AU II XR8 Daily driver.

BF XR8 ute (Red the only true Modification) My Toy.

The boy,

XT Ute 393 cleveland.

Genuine XB GT.
Tucool is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:08 PM   #8
Ford_The_Win
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,730
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by blk6t
The Falcon...
Oooh clever response

I am doubtful they will kill the nameplate though, they'll just stick it on to whatever imported barge takes it's place.
__________________
2011 FG XR6 Sedan
Ford_The_Win is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:12 PM   #9
tweeked
N/A all the way
 
tweeked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,459
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Monaro,

Not a huge number, mainly V8, two door, good looks, Nameplate

Coupe 4 especially
__________________
BA GT
5.88 litres of Modular Boss Powered Muscle
300++ RWKW N/A on 98 octane on any dyno, happy or sad, on any day, with any operator you choose - 12.39@115.5 full weight

tweeked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:20 PM   #10
GT0132
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
GT0132's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Miranda, NSW
Posts: 6,771
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Goose
Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....
I recall in 1986 doing a diff changeover on my XC on the side of the road with a trolley jack , socket set and a few spanners
__________________
2005 BA MK2 FPV GT - 6 SPEED MANUAL , SILHOUETTE, SWISSVAX, SUNROOF, BILSTEIN AND LOVELLS, FACTORY GENUINE 19'S, X-FORCE STAINLESS QUAD CATBACK, ADVANCE HEADERS, 200 CPSI CATS, BLUEPOWER CAI, HERROD BREATHER KIT, 4:11 DIFF RATIO, MAL WOOD OPT 3+ CLUTCH, BILLET SHIFTER, MELLINGS 10227, NOW WITH REVERSE CAMERA/SENSORS, ALPINE SPEAKERS & SUB - CUSTOM TUNED TO 275 RWKW


NOW WITH A NEW ADDITION - 2017 MUSTANG V8 GT FASTBACK - , 6 SPEED AUTO IN PLATINUM WHITE,
GT0132 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:26 PM   #11
sneaky
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
sneaky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,061
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeked
Monaro,

Not a huge number, mainly V8, two door, good looks, Nameplate

Coupe 4 especially
hoping the HSV GTO goes up in value a long way. my father in law just bought one so maybe when he is really old i can take it off his hands
__________________
-Tim
sneaky is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:29 PM   #12
El Sucio
Regular Member
 
El Sucio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 186
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Holden Monaro - particularly HSV variants.
T series AU's - particularly series 3 with the last of the windsors(strokers).
EF and EL Tickfords

Something out of left field - hemi powered Chrysler 300C's?? I think in 30 years time they will draw a renewed hot rodding crowd - maybe see some crazy 2 door convertibles or chopped roof's or something similar?
__________________
2002 AU III XR8 220kw

Previous Rides:
KH Laser TX3
EF Futura (RIP)
EL XR6
AU2 XR6
BA XR8
BF XR8
BF Wagon (XR6 Lookalike supercharged)
2014 Ford Ranger XLT
2000 AU XR8 with all the options boxes ticked (RIP)
2005 BA Mk 2 Fairmont Ghia V8
2012 FG Mk 2 XR6T

G.M.H. - Get a Mechanic...Hurry!!
El Sucio is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:34 PM   #13
buggo
[BU66OS]
 
buggo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Central Coast NSW
Posts: 1,719
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by sneaky
hoping the HSV GTO goes up in value a long way. my father in law just bought one so maybe when he is really old i can take it off his hands
Yeah I reckon all the V2 bodied Holdens/HSV's will be highly sought after in decades to come.
The highest will be the GTS in yellow.
__________________
FG XR6 Turbo Nitro

BA XR8 Manual
buggo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:41 PM   #14
spebgtsprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
spebgtsprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Perth (Wait Awhile)
Posts: 621
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Great Wall ute and the newly released Geely - Chinese first edition classics for sure...................

EB/EL GT's, ED Sprint and T3's?? (A bit biased on my behalf though....)
__________________
"Ive spent all my money on fast cars, fast women and booze, the rest I've just blown"

XR8 SPRINT
FREE HO
MERC C55 AMG
AUDI A4
spebgtsprint is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:45 PM   #15
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 25,947
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by spebgtsprint
Great Wall ute and the newly released Geely - Chinese first edition classics for sure...................

EB/EL GT's, ED Sprint and T3's?? (A bit biased on my behalf though....)
Exactly what i was going to post
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:48 PM   #16
spebgtsprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
spebgtsprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Perth (Wait Awhile)
Posts: 621
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJM83
Exactly what i was going to post
Really?? You think the Great Wall or Geely will be ultimate classics, like me cool!!!
__________________
"Ive spent all my money on fast cars, fast women and booze, the rest I've just blown"

XR8 SPRINT
FREE HO
MERC C55 AMG
AUDI A4
spebgtsprint is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 02:48 PM   #17
AWD Chaser
Formally Kia Chaser
 
AWD Chaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 2,493
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

T series for sure!
__________________
Kia Grand Carnival (2006)
Silver, Grill Mesh, Tints, Sidesteps (with lights), Towbar, 7" Touch Screen DVD Tuner with intergrated GPS & Bluetooth, Roof Mounted Flip Down 15.1" LCD Screen, Reverse Camera - 184Kw

HSV Clubsport R8 VY (2003)
Black, 6sp Manual, Coulson Seats, Red on black interior, Pacemaker extractors, Twin 2.5" exhaust, Custom Red 20" VE GTS Rims, Custom Red Stitching
AWD Chaser is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:21 PM   #18
XB GS 351 Coupe
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Mid North Coast
Posts: 6,443
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

My guess would be:

EB GT, EL GT, EL XR8, BA GT, BF series 2 GT with the GT 40th being the most desirable B series.

But I think the EB GT and EL XR8 is well on its way the others will have to wait a while yet
XB GS 351 Coupe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:24 PM   #19
jlef5
Regular Member
 
jlef5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 372
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

EF and EL falcons fairmonts. Monaros. 300C
jlef5 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:37 PM   #20
chrisfpv
Browsing here and there..
 
chrisfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 2,075
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

There won't be because they'll be all too common.

The classics of today are classics because nobody thought they would be worth something 30+ years on and seeing them isn't an everyday occurance for the average joe. Alot of people these days think that any car from the mid 90's onwards with the words "GT" on it are everyones desire and "must have" vehicle as it's going to be a classic one day without a doubt.

The problem with this is that they may turn out to be wrong if everyones keeping these cars or storing them away. They won't be worth anything in 10 - 15 years from now because when they go to sell there EL or BA GT for eg hoping to make a bundle, they'll have 20 more ads next to theres advertising the same thing

Just my 2c..

Last edited by chrisfpv; 29-04-2011 at 03:43 PM.
chrisfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:45 PM   #21
Grippy
Racing improves the breed
 
Grippy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SE Melbourne
Posts: 3,982
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

It would have to be something that was built in low numbers. Personally I think ED XR8 Sprints and T3 TE/TS50's will be the 'modern' muslce Fords to gain value at some point, but can't ever see them commanding crazy HO kind of prices. XR8 Sprints because they were effectively a bare bone ED GT with goodies standard XR8's didn't get, and T3's because they got that sweet stroked and handbuilt windsor.
__________________
1970 Mini Cooper S Historic Group Nc Touring car

1964 Mini Cooper S Historic Group Nb Touring car

2024 Subaru Outback Touring XT

Victorian Hill Climb Championship
Grippy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:50 PM   #22
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Goose
Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....
You could probably pull the I6 out of a BA in the same amount of time if you wanted to. There isn't anything extra to remove save for injector harness and the air intake tubing. The issue is going to be the longevity of the electronics.

And as far as taking all day to pull out an IRS, you need to backhand whoever told you that. 12 bolts, tail-shaft and the hand brake cable can have it on your garage floor in just over an hour. With the right tools of course!
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 03:56 PM   #23
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Keeping on topic though, I think:

The ED XR8 Sprint
The T3 T-series
Any V2 Monaro
Any HSV GTS (particularly the ones with the Harrop or Callaway donk)
Any F6 (maybe XR6 turbos may become collectible after the I6 gets killed but it wont be a classic)
And the FGII FPV V8's. I say this because the FGII should bring the 'total package' to the table to complement the ripper V8 - this may not happen again, especially in the post-2015 world

And the kicker:
Falcon utes, particularly V8 and turbo I6 variants. I am told that regardless of which way Ford goes with the Falcon after 2015, the Falcon ute is a goner.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:13 PM   #24
jamesson1980
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jamesson1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somerville, Victoria
Posts: 704
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

ok.. apologies DJM83, i forgot to leave my originality at the door when I entered the forums today.

My original thought was early E series, but seeing as this is an invalid and pointless idea, I'l just follow the herd and say perhaps the big V8 XD/XE.
__________________
customer: "My car seems to be changing colour and growing wings"
Ford Service: "That's normal, they all do that after about 10,000km


2009 FG XR6, Ego Paint, Darkest possible tint, Sunroof, Black Vic number plates. No performance mods. Born To Be Mild
jamesson1980 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:18 PM   #25
JG65TE
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
JG65TE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,600
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

In the near future,......v8 xd , xe ghias, esps etc. In 30 years I will be pushin the daisies up but anything fpv ish that hasnt been stuffed with...
JG65TE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:19 PM   #26
lockieoc
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Central Coast, NSW
Posts: 752
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Force 6
Force 8
GT-E
F6-E
F6X
40th GT

Very few made
Anything with low build numbers

Also Spec R Typhoon
Even the last of the LTD Fairlanes might do alright later on

Last edited by lockieoc; 29-04-2011 at 04:46 PM.
lockieoc is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:20 PM   #27
GS608
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: ...in the shed
Posts: 3,386
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

T3 for sure..HSV coupe 4
GS608 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:21 PM   #28
XRGhia
meh.
Donating Member3
 
XRGhia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Was Central Coast, Now Sydney NSW
Posts: 8,584
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Contributions in the technical arena. 
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

ED/EF XR6 Wagon
T3 TL50
EB/EL GT
ED XR8 Sprint
__________________
Previous - BF XR6T - 325rwkw, 6 Speed Auto, Process West, X-Force and Turbosmart gear
XRGhia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:27 PM   #29
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 25,947
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJM83
Exactly what i was going to post
Also i will ad the RS Focus
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-04-2011, 04:37 PM   #30
GEE-347
CRUzn
 
GEE-347's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wollongong, NSW
Posts: 309
Default Re: What will be the next "Classic"

a lil biased but maybe the T Series

also EB/EL GT?
__________________
GEE-347 :
T Series Club Australia

Special Thanks to
Brett & Zoran @ BnZ Automotive & Dyno
(347ci Windsor) 440bhp pump fuel


363ci Windsor in the Build
GEE-347 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 06:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL