pathetic parents

ebxr82nv · 31-03-2010, 01:03 PM

The other night I caught a snippet on the news or one of those rubbish shows ACA,today tonight etc, anyway there was this piece about this young tool that had crashed his scummydore into a tele pole at an estimated minimum speed of 160km/h(debis strewn 100m up the road).

The parents, when asked what they believed contibuted to the accident didnt mention "maybe the road wasn't up to scratch" or "maybe the tyres were a little bald" or not even "he was driving to fast" oh no no no the reason he had to be scraped up off the rd was because lewis hamilton did a burnout the other night. even our own mark webber copped a spray from them because he laughed about what LH did in an interview.

The twit journalists that allow this crap to go to air should be shot, I know that the hoon storys are making cash for the media at the moment but seriously they need to be a bit fair dinkum about it.

zdcol71 · 31-03-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ebxr82nv

The other night I caught a snippet on the news or one of those rubbish shows ACA,today tonight etc, anyway there was this piece about this young tool that had crashed his scummydore into a tele pole at an estimated minimum speed of 160km/h(debis strewn 100m up the road).

The parents, when asked what they believed contibuted to the accident didnt mention "maybe the road wasn't up to scratch" or "maybe the tyres were a little bald" or not even "he was driving to fast" oh no no no the reason he had to be scraped up off the rd was because lewis hamilton did a burnout the other night. even our own mark webber copped a spray from them because he laughed about what LH did in an interview.

The twit journalists that allow this crap to go to air should be shot, I know that the hoon storys are making cash for the media at the moment but seriously they need to be a bit fair dinkum about it.

I must be missing something... does this make any sense to anyone else?
Who are you down on here??(the pathetic parents, the twit journalist, or the young tool).

ltd · 31-03-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ebxr82nv

The other night I caught a snippet on the news or one of those rubbish shows ACA,today tonight etc, anyway there was this piece about this young tool that had crashed his scummydore into a tele pole at an estimated minimum speed of 160km/h(debis strewn 100m up the road).

The parents, when asked what they believed contibuted to the accident didnt mention "maybe the road wasn't up to scratch" or "maybe the tyres were a little bald" or not even "he was driving to fast" oh no no no the reason he had to be scraped up off the rd was because lewis hamilton did a burnout the other night. even our own mark webber copped a spray from them because he laughed about what LH did in an interview.

The twit journalists that allow this crap to go to air should be shot, I know that the hoon storys are making cash for the media at the moment but seriously they need to be a bit fair dinkum about it.

Parents and bogans will always jump on a bandwagon if it is topical so they can sell their crap stories. Ofcourse, the so called journalists lead them to say what they want them to say. They're looking for a headline grab, simple as that.
I know this from personal experience where ACA interviewed me last year about work; for some reason they never put me or the story to air. The reason was that I wouldn't be lead by their questions and pretty much disputed every question they asked me. They apparently had a whistleblower who it turned out had a major grudge, his interview was tainted when they found out he was a union delegate. That was over 6 months ago.

ebxr82nv · 31-03-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zdcol71

I must be missing something... does this make any sense to anyone else?
Who are you down on here??(the pathetic parents, the twit journalist, or the young tool).

All of the above, but mainly the parents. I found the following piece of info relating to this in another thread:

Victoria is heading for its worst road toll in more than five years, with five people killed in accidents at the weekend.

Four of the five smashes involved speed, with one 19-year-old P-plater dying after he drove into a pole at 160kmh in an 80kmh zone near Geelong early on Sunday.

Deputy Commissioner Ken Lay said young man's passengers - a 14-year-old girl and two 19-year-old men - were lucky to survive the crash on Anakie Road, at Lovely Banks.

"We had a 20-year police veteran at the scene who described it as the worst crash he'd ever seen," he told reporters in Melbourne on Sunday.

"(Driving at) 160 in an 80km zone, look, there is only going to be one result, particularly when you put inexperience into the mix.

"This is the third crash this year involving a young P-plate driver driving at extremely high speeds."

The girl and one of the men, both seriously injured, were airlifted to the Royal Melbourne Hospital.

The other passenger, who was thrown from the car, was taken to Geelong Hospital with minor injuries.

**TUF_302** · 31-03-2010, 01:29 PM

You really have to be concerned when its obvious the parents are just as stupid as the kid drving, how can they not see it was his own stupid actions which caused the accident!

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vztrt · 31-03-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TUF_302

You really have to be concerned when its obvious the parents are just as stupid as the kid drving, how can they not see it was his own stupid actions which caused the accident!

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Because they're always good kids when they write themselves off.

RG · 31-03-2010, 01:47 PM

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Because they're always good kids when they write themselves off.

As The Chaser said, everyone is a top bloke when they're dead.

4Vman · 31-03-2010, 02:53 PM

Before i get anymore angry was this the accident in Geelong you're referring to?

RedHotGT · 31-03-2010, 02:54 PM

Sadly... you don't need a license or permit to become a parent...

RG · 31-03-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Before i get anymore angry was this the accident in Geelong you're referring to?

Being the only very recent accident involving a teenager at 160 I dare say it would be Norm.

I do believe I heard something along the lines of what the OP said in regards to it on the news.

4Vman · 31-03-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Being the only very recent accident involving a teenager at 160 I dare say it would be Norm.

I do believe I heard something along the lines of what the OP said in regards to it on the news.

Before anyone condemns the parents they should go here and listen to what the kids father said... 4th pod cast down.

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...guire/podcasts

Then listen to the ones above it to for some further perspective.

I don't think this kids Father is shirking any responsibility, nor is he taking blame away from his kids stupidity....

RG · 31-03-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Before anyone condemns the parents they should go here and listen to what the kids father said... 4th pod cast down.

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...guire/podcasts

Then listen to the one above it to for some further perspective.

I don't think this kids Father is shirking any responsibility, nor is he taking blame away from his kids stupidity....

The kid did what nearly every other young bloke has done at least once when they got their licence. Had a bit of a show off to his mates, pushed the limits and drove a bit quick.

Unfortunately for him and his family unlike most of us he won't have the chance to look back and think "geez I was a bit of a fool back then" because he messed it up and paid a very heavy price, one that he did not deserve.

In that interview I did not hear his father blame the road, he made comment that the road invites you to put the foot down, as many many roads do. Unfortunately the kid couldn't resist the temptation. His father said he was a good kid, whether or not that is true is not the point. To them he was and that is all that matters, to us he is another unfortunate statistic.

ebxr82nv · 31-03-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Before anyone condemns the parents they should go here and listen to what the kids father said... 4th pod cast down.

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...guire/podcasts

Then listen to the ones above it to for some further perspective.

I don't think this kids Father is shirking any responsibility, nor is he taking blame away from his kids stupidity....

I was refering to what I saw on the tv only, no doubt between the tv interview and mondays radio interview the parents had a bit more time to refine their comments while dealing with grief I can only imagine from a tradjedy that should never have happened.

Jim Goose · 31-03-2010, 07:46 PM

If its the father im thinking of , he gave L.Hamiliton a spray about his behavour in public because it encourages young drivers to do the same.... to be a twat on the road.

ACA have a poor record when it comes to interviewing people/ topics, but the interview I saw of him was not on ACA.

onfire · 31-03-2010, 11:07 PM

Sadly we live in a world, where it's standard practice to look for someone to blame.

**Full Noise** · 04-04-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Before anyone condemns the parents they should go here and listen to what the kids father said... 4th pod cast down.

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...guire/podcasts

Then listen to the ones above it to for some further perspective.

I don't think this kids Father is shirking any responsibility, nor is he taking blame away from his kids stupidity....

Here’s a rather interesting article in today’s Sunday Herald Sun.

While I can’t stand Eddie Maguire, he makes a few good points here.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/...849297914#page

I have added to the comments page, but they may not add it to the site.

My 2 cents below.

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While I feel deeply sorry for the parents here, the kids themselves need to take responsibility. 25 years ago, I would push the boundaries and drive quickly, but I, and many of my friends, knew when to back off. There’s an old saying “you can’t put brains in a monument” and I think that applies here.

If Mick’s son, Shane, won’t even listen to his “old man”, he probably won’t listen to anyone. I feel so sorry for Mick, but I care very little for his son, Shane. I just hope that he doesn’t take out some innocent motorist when he eventually stuffs up.

I also feel that the current laws regarding the “so called” hoon activities are harsh enough. We are turning into a “police state” and we just don’t need more laws. Also, laws only work on those who choose to obey them. Making them tougher will not change a thing, other than giving politicians something to beat their chests over.

paule11 · 04-04-2010, 11:38 AM

With those tv shows they edit out a lot and twist the story .
They have been known to change the answers for instance they have asked a question they dont get the answer they want then ask a different question to get the answer they want.
They then edit the second answer into the clip to look like its the actual answer to the first question

**Full Noise** · 04-04-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by paule11

With those tv shows they edit out a lot and twist the story .
They have been known to change the answers for instance they have asked a question they dont get the answer they want then ask a different question to get the answer they want.
They then edit the second answer into the clip to look like its the actual answer to the first question

The TV show “Frontline” was good for highlighting this.

b2tf · 04-04-2010, 05:39 PM

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The TV show “Frontline” was good for highlighting this.

Yep - Frontline really showed us all what chequebook journalism was all about and it put a lot of shows like ACA to task about how they get stories and how they present them.

Personally I think ACA and Tracey Grimshaw are the biggest pack of crapmongers out - cannot stand her.

CRAIGAU3220 · 04-04-2010, 05:56 PM

I cant watch ACA or Today Tonight.....Absolute biggest load of crap on TV and an insult to human intelligence. 6.30 to 7pm im out exercising.

Spudz27 · 04-04-2010, 07:03 PM

I have to admit I was a danger on the roads sometimes, when I first got my licence. I even overtook what turned out to be an undercover cop car at 130kp/h in an 80 zone. Thankfully they had no proof of my speed and let me off, that didn't deter me though. I raced a guy down Fremantle road in Gosnells, was pushing 180, then had to pull up as the boom gates went down. I took my mums EL up to 165km on Tonkin Highway, thankfully I had a concience and backed off, so when I got flashed I was doing 109 in a 100 zone but for me it was still 19km over (P plates), mum took the fine. I was always doing burnouts. All these incidents where I could have died or killed someone innocent and not once did I care. My stupidity only stopped the day I lost my licence doing 160 along the Kenwick link. Since then (9yrs) I have not lost a single demerit point due to speed or stupid driving.

All I am saying in the end I relate to why these guys keep going till they die or kill someone else, pity that some of them don't even stop after losing their licence or worse.

Bearman · 05-04-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

Here’s a rather interesting article in today’s Sunday Herald Sun.

While I can’t stand Eddie Maguire, he makes a few good points here.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/...849297914#page

Great article, and your comments are spot on.

The thing is, we all knew a "Shane", or several "Shane's" when we first started driving. All the ones I knew all survived unscathed and never hurt anyone else either but that was sheer dumb luck!! I was a "Shane" myself.

Eddie Maguire's comments about boredom and social disconnection resonated with me and took me straight back to 30 years ago living in a rural area and being bored out of my brain. Growing up in the bush unless you were into football, cricket or drinking copious quantities of alcohol there was nothing for you!!

Cars, and driving them dangerously relieved my absolute boredom. I had a bad reputation around town and drove my parents mad. I was a "Shane" who woke up to myself before I ran out of luck. The best thing I ever did was leave town and move to Melbourne.

No amount of laws and law enforcement will prevent this behaviour. All speed cameras do is make criminals of normal everyday people and will do nothing to stop the "Shane's" of this world. All we can hope for is they have an epiphany and come to their senses.

My youngest step son has just got his first car and I'm trying to drum into him good road sense. One of his mates is a bit of a worry but luckily most of his friends are pretty level headed so the old peer group pressure thing is less likely to be a factor. How hard it is trying to tell your kids not to do the very things you did!!

BTW, I can't stand Eddie Maguire either!!

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fotsyfots · 13-04-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Yep - Frontline really showed us all what chequebook journalism was all about and it put a lot of shows like ACA to task about how they get stories and how they present them.

Personally I think ACA and Tracey Grimshaw are the biggest pack of crapmongers out - cannot stand her.

That Tracey Grimshaw seems to have that "something" about her....Subject of her being the new host for aca came up in convo. at a dinner a ways back & first comment anyone at table ushered was from the most placid bloke to walk this earth of"That b..ch sh.ts me to tears,i would love to repeatedly punch her straight in the face"in between forking down his pasta.I dont even reckon ive seen this guy swat a fly for christs sake.

scoupedy · 16-04-2010, 10:27 AM

There upset about loosing a loved one - people react differently