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This article in todays Herald Sun on the second page:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226234455223 Quote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226234451846 No indication from the Deputy Commissioner of Police Walshe of what could be a satisfactory road toll. Maybe zero, only when all vehicles (motorbikes, cars, trucks) are banned completely from the roads, and everyone stayed at home. |
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how many pedestrians that were killed used crossings?
My guess is >50%
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Heres a better thought.
Why don't pedestrians grow a *** brain before they cross the road
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Easy solution - The road is for cars, not for pedestrians to walk on...
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Thats blatant media rubbish even police said pedestrians are at fault in most cases.
As for old people doesnt suprise me they seem ignorant of the world around them and that everyone should move otu of their way. In cars they are exactly the same they drive in their own like there is no-one else on the road. It reminds me of that TAC ad where that stupid woman walks out on the road to get hit by the silver au?? FFS she doesnt even look when she steps out onto the road IMO she deserves to be run down by a car. |
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Two elderly fatalities in Rockhampton over the last year or two spring to mind...one was outside a club where the old guy had been celebrating his birthday with family, and they hastily crossed the road in a darkish spot nowhere near a crossing. He was hit and killed. The other was someone crossing near the big Stocklands shopping center, where a major four lane divided highway runs. There's no crossing, but people used to wander across, popping out from the bushes nearly in front of you. Now the council has built an expensive panel fence along the length of the island down the center of the road, but people are apparently still pushing panels out to cross there...
Make cars go as slow as you like around schools a school times and no one will complain as it's an eminently sensible idea, but on busy roads away from pedestrian crossings, anything can happen and shouldn't be blamed on the cars when someone decides to play Russian roulette with heavy traffic. The rot started to set in some years back when that woman on the Sunshine Coast was prosecuted (don't recall the outcome) for hitting and injuring a drunk outside a club who was leaning against a post, and suddenly staggered out in front of her so close in front of her car that she literally had no reaction time to stop or swerve. Authorities said to drivers that they "should expect" drunks to wander out around clubs and pubs and to keep a close eye out for them and, basically, whatever happened was completely the car drivers fault. Yes, the road tollis the lowest for decades...especially if you use statistics and show it as a per-driver-on-the-road number. Anyone with a memory of more than five minutes will remember the popular advertising campaign in Queensland of many years back saying "Stay Alive - Beat 515", when the previous years road toll in the state had been 515. With tens of thousands of new drivers on the road each year, drivers should be congratulated on keeping the toll as low as it is. |
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If pedestrians can't see a car coming, or a crossing, they shouldn't be walking to begin with.
Elderly. Difficult one. With a lot of modern cars being fairly quiet, it makes it difficult for them to hear them coming. Their eye site, lets face it, it's not real good either. So what can you do when it comes to them, with this situation?
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Today this old guy decided to cross the Pacific Highway at Charlestown just as the lights went green. Stupid idea, but then instead of stopping on the medium strip he kept running across in front of the traffic going the other way.
Stupid people like this old guy are why there are pedestrian fatalities. |
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Oh dear, pedestrians doing the wrong thing and paying the ultimate price, so let's slow down the cars.
Rather than doing that, how about nabbing jay walkers and make them cross at safe places and if roads are that busy, isolate the hazard by putting in over passes or subways.. |
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If you need to be on the road .... do so when there is no cars. Simple.
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Considering the worlds first pedestrian death was at a speed of 4mph, we should just ban pedestrians as a method of lowering the road toll.
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with hybrids on the increase and now electric vehicles coming on to the market, it will possibly create a big storm with pedestrian accidents. they'll have to pass legislation making electric and hybrid cars have bells on them so people can hear them coming. whatever happened to the ol' 'stop, look and listen', or 'look to the left, look to the right and look to the left again'!! sometimes, just sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own actions. |
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In 2010 an 80 year old woman tried to cross the Tullamarine Freeway and got hit by a truck, probably wasn't the best idea to cross a 100km/h freeway.
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The Harold Scrubbies et al ( and that is the ilk of person driving this ) of this world will not be happy until we all have a person walking in front of our cars waving a red flag . In the CBD I wish I had a dollar for every mindless imbecile who stepped out in front of me without even looking usually with a bloody mp3 player blaring away in both their ears and usually in direct contravention of a dont walk sign or something similar . And when you have the temerity to sound your horn 90% will abuse you for saving their WORTHLESS NO GOOD lives . Nearly got in many a punch up with these morons , actually did knock the living daylights out of one such individual who kicked my rear 3/4 panel as I drove past . Didn't fix the damage but did give me immense satisfaction .
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Bring back Hector ..........
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Do people even get pinged for jaywalking anymore? I'm old enough (only 46) to remember getting a caution from Plod for walking across the middle of a city block in Brisbane when there was no traffic from one set of lights to the next, when I was 18.
Is it even an offence anymore? |
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I don't think so D: I have done it and noticed cops after and they didn't take a 2nd look at me.
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The cops went through a phase about 6 months ago, in Adelaide pinging people for Jay walking. Don't know whether the phase is still going though.
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The moderators need a pay rise with threads like these ...
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As the road told remains unchanged in 3 years, whatever they are doing isn't working.
One of the deaths last year was a 5 year old who was struck by a car doin 10kph! Only one thing needs to happen. Training. Pure and simple. Teach drivers to pay more attention and drive properly. Teach kids from kinder or at least prep on how to cross the road and what to look for.
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Something interesting for you all. (And I bet this is revenue related too however still interesting to see) Adelaide city council wants the CBD to become 40km/h so it is safer for pedestrians however SAPOL has been having massive blitzes nabbing pedestrians for Jwalking, taking too long too cross the road and not using the lights when nearby.
You tell me what is wanted to do? One party is almost condoning pedestrians on the road and another is shunning them. Last time I checked, the road is for cars and someone would be in alot of trouble if they drove on the footpath so as minimal pedestrian traffic on the roads as possible is good. Lets assume ALL drivers are complacent and keep pedestrians from the road as much as possible for their own safety. In saying this, Hindley street in Adelaide CBD at night is a pedestrian run street. As is Jetty Rd Glenelg 24/7. It is almost an unwritten law that people can stroll out and not look and everyone will stop for them because it is the nature of the street. |
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