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Polyal, do we want people to give good sound advice or just "anything goes" advice?? Now more than ever before keeping your car on the safe side of ADR compliance can mean the difference between having transport or walking.... and it wont get any better..
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My advice was do it if you want to, his car is already "illegal" (quick shoot him), keep the stock stuff laying about if he ever has an issue. Dont drive like a stooge and you wont get in any bother, be prepared to cop it when the situation arises. We all know the game we play and if you modify a car without thinking of the consequences then thats the individuals problem. We are all capable of making a decision, you dont need a bunch of strangers on the internet to conclude your path. Honestly, 90% of the cars on this site would be "illegal" in some way or form.
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You know if this thread was about driving with a BAC of 0.06 which seems to be perfectly safe just about everywhere except Australia you would be going off like a pork chop about danger and getting caught.... And I am quite sure more than 90% of members have driven over the limit at least once... |
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Im not telling him what he should do, his a big boy now, can type and everything; his able to make his own decision. Dont even bring that tangent into it, modding an intake of a car VS flaunting a law that is far more serious and can potentially land the kid in jail...come on. The only thing the webbers will do is upset some hippies. /care in this thread, lighten up guys, he asked a really simple question.
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.. ![]() As for the original Post im a big fan of Retro Fitting new into Old so a FG 4.0L I6 would be my pick. Last edited by FPV8U; 30-01-2011 at 12:11 AM. |
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As for autos ... many had 3 speed autos back in the day - did that make them less of a muscle car? A 6 speed has to be a great idea in an old muscle car I'd reckon. I might put one in the P6 one day. |
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I am fairly confident that there are a number of FWD 4cylinders that can embarrass your 351C, does that make them muscle cars? "Muscle car" is about the technology of the "muscle car era" during which LPG fuel injection was not available on falcons. Does ripping the V8 out of a phase 3 GTHO and fitting a twin turbo V6 out of a Nissan GTR make go better? Of course it does. Is it still a muscle car? About as much of a muscle car as a LPG conversion. But all this is moot anyway, Willo is a red P plater so it just can't legally be done.... |
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![]() I don't know how you even found this thread flappist.
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How unusual....... |
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An R32 actually does.
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Or you can have them not hooked up and still meet the emission levels and everything's sweet.
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i'll go straight to the point, muscle car IMHO has to be carburettored. no ifs or buts. unless its a daily, then EFI is more reliable, economical etc...
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Good ol ADR27a. Can someone explain to me how engines that have less power and burn more fuel to do the same amount of work as an unrestricted engine are supposed to reduce emissions? A round of applause please for the government.
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this thread makes me lol. EFI isn't muscle! LPG can't be on muscle cars!
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I forgot to add:
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I once got told that my 351 XD was not a muscle car because it wasn't old enough.
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Well technically to be classed as a "musclecar" it should atleast have been produced during the "musclecar era"..... (widely acepted as approx 1967-1976)..
Atleast use the "steel bumper" rule... I wont even dare open the "what's a Factory musclecar" can of worms.... LOL
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I will; here we go ... Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high performance automobiles.[1] The Merriam-Webster definition is more limiting, "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."[2] The term generally refers to 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size cars, and sometimes full-size cars equipped with large, powerful, V8s, and sold at an affordable price for street use and both formal and informal drag racing.[3][4][5][6] As such, they are distinct from two-seat sports cars and expensive 2+2 GTs intended for high-speed touring and road racing. Building on the American phenomenon and developing simultaneously in their own markets, muscle cars also emerged in their own fashions in Australia, South Africa, the UK, and elsewhere. From Wiki of course ![]() Edit; PS. There is some interesting reading in here including the world muscle car registry http://musclecarclub.com/musclecars/...finition.shtml Last edited by T3man; 29-01-2011 at 06:55 PM. |
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1978 XCs have steel bumpers
Doesnt the 1983 VH crumpledore have steel bumpers ??? Therell always be different termanologies regarding whats "Muscle" or not At the end of the day willo, Youll spend a motsa on triple webers (probably cost more than a 351 clevo) So ya mite as well sit it out save ya money and go the clevo All legal,minimal hassles And best of all ,the V8 rumble |
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No, ADR 27a was not the first of the "pollution" rules. But certainly it was the first to have a massive impact on engine behaviour/performance.
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im gunna say it ****** ADR27a. at the end of the day if you get pinged, you just go and rectify the problem. but there are loads of other crimes the police have on their minds.
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Unfortunately for the op he has 4 things against him; 1) he lives in a small town community where he will be well known and a small police force that know most people in town, 2) he has a very noticeable vehicle with obvious modifications so he cant blend in, 3) he's a P Plater and 4) if he mods the engine to defect 27a he'll get pinged hard.... No good giving cavalier advice if all it does is causes him grief. Normally what follows this kind of thing if poor advice is followed is a thread about how the police are "picking" on him....
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4vman, i live in a smalll community and i too am a red p plater, i had a bit of a brain fart lol and realised i didnt really help the situation. xcwillo, keep your car as it is for now and when you get your blacks then modify the hell out of it. thsts what i'm gunna do anyway. but if you'd like better fuel economy and a bit more reliability then yeah put the xr6 engine in it.
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To answer willos question IMOO, Muscles are carbied, simple. As for ADR27a, well, erm, im not going to condone making your car "defective". As much a joke as it is...
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