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If they choose to live with the constant fear that a staffer or visitor is going to leak information, press are going to try and invade their privacy, etc, so be it.
Alternatively, an honest and frank response would let everyone, family and fans alike, get on with life. |
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no way to live
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What a friend NOT ! **** him, I expect no one will purchase on principle and knowing MS's family will sue etcetc.....
I had read the other day about a new campaign being Keep Fighting initiative. See link http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-1...vement/8130308
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I don't know how MS feels being kept alive as a vegetable, but I would not choose that. Existence is not life!
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His condition will be made public at some point, and all the secrecy and paranoia on the family's part will have been for nothing. They'd be far better off issuing a one off statement outlining his state, and that would make the media and public lose interest for the most part, and they could all just get on with life.
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Michael Schumacher is a big brand and especially so in F1 mad Europe.
I doubt anyone involved in the running of Schumacher’s business interests would want to close the door on his profit generating public persona by removing him completely from the media and public minds. I tend to agree with JC, quality of life and all that would come into play if it was me and my family are well aware of my wishes. But if he’s not on life support then there’d be no plug to pull and if it’s like Australia where assisted suicide is murder than you can only feel sorry for him. |
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Fact is, he is a public figure, loved, respected, looked up to, by millions of people and motorsport fans. Give them an update FFS and be done with it. Sell the story for a few million bucks and use the money to fund his care if need be.... |
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We can all agree and others would disagree.
I'm all for quality of life etcetc BUT we also should put ourselves in his wife's position on the circumstance and children. It is her right to keep all within their bubble, it doesn't suit us BUT thats her/their call. People need to accept and respect this imo. Would you think MS during his career of highs and lows not at times lay together in discussion with his worrying wife discussing IF this happens or that happens I wish you to make sure you do this if any hope for eg ? MS was/is a very smart calculating man something as this would not surprise me. Lauda had the Priest come in reading his last rites - did his wife say switch everything off in that worrying no hope first week another eg......... This is one families decision - its their choice their business no matter what we feel. I'm sure some here have lost loved ones, despite how terrible we know it looks seeing one laying in bed hopeless I wonder how his kids feel to at least know Dad is still with them, they can touch or kiss him gently for eg talk to him even though there is no response, hopefully not in pain...something is better than nothing as they say. I'm just playing devils advocate - in the same position I don't know what I would or not do if it was my Dad.
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Just goes to show.. Whatever our issues are .. There's always someone WAY worse off.. I feel so sorry for wife and family...
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Personally I can't believe people not respecting their wishes and wanting to know more, it's all a bit voyeuristic. |
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Thanks XByoot, your spot on about him, he never gave up.
The other point is there is always 2 sides to every storey. You have to admire his wife tbh, she's living in "hope" - she has decided to carry on as if her husband is still around or whatever way I can't find the words to describe this. Imagine, not moving forward with life so to speak, not having a comforting partner to console with but to carry on her families daily needs. Despite the money/support there is it sure would be a strange daily life for her. I hurt for this overall - I admired and loved this racer, despite his "ways" he was an absolute Champion our beloved sport has lost at present in life form. Saddens me greatly.
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I’m one of them myself who cares for my wife who after a series of strokes was finally left unable to walk or talk. Life has to go on for us even when hope is gone. I feel sorry for Schumacher and his family but I’m sure his family has it better than many others in this world.
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Loudpipes, great post and so sorry of your situation all the very best to both of you, I'm sure she knows your there - sticking by your loved one/s no matter what thats what its all about.
All the best to you mate.
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Why? It's none of anyone else's business, the media scum should just get on with life instead of trying to pester the family for news. Schumacher's health is not 'news'.
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That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that there are enough people wanting to know that the press will pursue it, and the family will have to go out of its way to maintain privacy. Doesn't sound like much of a life, constantly being vigilant and cautious about anyone you let into your life.
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The media's insatiable appetite for gossip has nothing to do with news, updates, looking out for the fans or well-meaning messages..... It is all just about cashing in. The phrase "the public have a right to know" is horribly distorted and widely misunderstood in the context of a revenue-driven media climate of today.
In this day and age of rampant social media and anyone with a phone having the ability to be a papparazzi, it is a credit to the Schumacher family that they have held their privacy this long.
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This is the perfect example for your argument against 'the public have a right to know'. Even though it's a file sealed for the privacy of those involved including the ex-wife who is still alive, a newspaper has won a court ruling to have private details of someone divorce made public so as they can sell copy. Public figure or not everyone is entitled to some privacy and there is something morally wrong with this in my books. Quote:
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agree.
personally in the schumacher case, i don't think the public do have a right to know. he was already retired when he had the accident, therefore his public life was basically over. Of course due to his profile whatever he did would still make 'news' but it wasn't people's 'right' to know what he was up to. its fine to have an opinion, but you need to respect the family's decisions. whether you think they are right or wrong is irrelevant. He is a husband and father and has always kept his private life sheltered, even when he was racing. Why should it be any different now. I will forever hold on to hope that while he still has breath in him, that there is hope for he and his family and friends. apart from that i do not care that i'm not getting updated as to his condition. its none of my business or anyone else's. |
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Media only reports on matters of interest to the public who are willing to pay for news stories, proof is right here with the interest generated on this forum post about Schumacher condition.
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Being interested in knowing and being entitled to know are two different things.
I’m interested to know but I don’t feel I’m entitled to. If a newspaper reported his condition I’d read about it but that doesn’t mean I believe they should take someone to court to gain access to personal info just because they will make money out of people like me who are interested. I’m interested in seeing Scarlett Johansson naked but I’m sure she doesn’t agree with me. . Last edited by Express; 23-12-2016 at 05:45 PM. |
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