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Old 25-01-2025, 10:45 AM   #32
Jack91
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Default Re: Have car companies innovated themselves out of business?

Maybe it's just that most people are just too lazy or dumb to look at all their options?
A few years ago I had an apprentice that was huge into 4x4 and had a string of modified hiluxes and cruisers. He was cashed up and loved a good loan. He was telling me about a 79 series he was keen on, on portals with a canopy and all the fruit, it was over $100k.
His mind was blown when I told him he could get a H1 humvee for that (stock portals, diesel v8, Alison transfer, 37s)
Same as when you see people soccer mumming in an mux, they couldve got a really nice 200 series and had 20 grand change. And if they'd have driven them back to back there's no way they'd take the Isuzu.
The only time a manufacturer has actually listened to what the people want is the ineos grenadier, and its still ended up ugly as sin and with a shit engine.
I just don't really understand how the 2nd biggest purchase people make they don't give a shit about it. I'm in the market for a 3rd gen camaro to use as a daily/backup car. EFI (well, tbi atleast), air con, heater, looks cool, is different, holds its value, and I love them. Yet someone would go spend the same 30k on a shitbox mg or similar that's destroyed in 5 years and they don't care about. Likely used aswell, because new prices of some stuff is totally nuts. Same person would look at the camaro in traffic and think shit that looks cool.
Yet these people "need" all the modern crap when you ask them. The only real retort to this comparison is fuel economy. Which isn't that big of a gap once you factor in service prices, failures, parts and resale.

It's not that I don't like change, it's that the new stuff really is pretty shit. Or at least isn't improved enough to warrant the cons and prices. "Here's a driveline that's gonna be rooted by 200,000km, but it's OK because you have a TV screen in the dash"
I hate the way everything looks now too especially the rangers and Everests. They tried to mimic the usa look, but it's smaller so it just looks gay. Everything else seems to be "let's make the headlights as small as possible and the grille can be all the rest of the front"

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