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"Queensland drivers have been slapped with around 90 million dollars in fines for going ‘just over’ the speed limit, according to data revealed by RACQ.
More than two thirds of the speeding fines in the 12 months between 1 November 2016 and 31 October 2017 went to drivers going less than 13 km/h over the limit. The Department of Transport and Main Roads figures revealed more than 890,000 drivers were caught speeding in 12 months, with almost 600,000 fined for low range speeding. RACQ spokesperson Renee Smith said RACQ was shocked so many drivers were risking their lives in the vain attempt to save a few seconds on their journey. “It’s a waste of money frankly, and it does little to get you to your destination any quicker,” Ms Smith said. “Most of those speedsters were caught by mobile speed cameras, proving police are out in force, and will catch anyone flouting the law. “You risk not just a $168 fine and one demerit point, you could cause a serious crash.” Ms Smith reminded drivers who mistakenly believed low range speeding was harmless, roads had limits for a reason. “Speed zones are set after taking into consideration factors like road and traffic conditions and crash history,” she said. “In a split second, the situation on the road can change, and speeding, even just a little bit, reduces the driver’s ability to safely react in time. “We’re urging drivers to pay close attention to their speed before putting pedal to the metal.” Queensland low range speeding fines issued 1 November 2016–31 October 2017: Total speeding – 897,115 Fines for motorists driving 13 km/h or less over speed limit – 591,282 (or 66 percent)."
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Luckily I haven't contributed to that since about 2000 and that was 65 in a 60 zone, about 50m after the 80 to 60 sign...
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What's the tolerance before being fined? It's only a couple of km/h here in Vic so I'd assume the percentage pinged here at very low speeds would be VERY high.
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Hypothetically speaking, what if everyone did under the limit and no one got caught, yet people were still killed in car accidents? How would govco explain this under their 'speeding kills' mantra?
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My foilhat, crackpot conspiracy theory is that Vic GovCo are lowering the speed limit on highway/freeways in phases. Phase 1 is install wire barriers which are too close to the edge of the road, meaning there is no safe place to stop. Phase 2 is to determine there is now no stopping/emegency lane on said roads so lower the speed to 80km/h (usual for roads without emergency lane in Vic) ![]() |
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They don't take into account its 2018 and we don't drive XB's any more. Cars are way more glued to the road but I guess drivers are still ****. Thanks roads authorities for not having defence driving courses as part of your licence test.
Between 11pm-5am. 100 km zones should become 130 km zones. This will stop people falling asleep at the wheel. |
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$90m p.a. is nothing compared to the Vic Gov co $300+million business model
I'm tipping in 5 years time the low limit will not be 13km/h , but will follow the vic lmit creep down to 3-5km/h for mucho moro $$$$ FYI Vic Govco have planned for treasury receipts of $393m in 2017/18 for speed and red light camera fines ($421million in 2020-21). Clearly $1.6 Billion dollars in vehicle registration fees (17/18) is not enough to ensure Govco employees get paid. Compare with some states of the USA where the maximum speeding ticket is $30US. (Or other, smaller countries where highway speeds of 120-130 are normal. Where we are going as a nation if this is "productive" effort for each state.... Last edited by 383hq; 15-04-2018 at 09:04 AM. |
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I view it as one big lie on the part of the government. They say it’s for safety and they don’t want the money, but the fact they budget for it, and then require it so they can and spend it, tells me it’s for revenue.
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Speed limits must still be too high....
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Every K over is a killer ! 897,115 dead 1/11/2016 to 31/10/2017 ?
We are urging drivers to pay close attention to their speed before putting the pedal to the metal ? as if they were driving flat out ? no mention to drive safely by using your brain. In a split second, the situation on the road can change, and speeding, even just a little bit, reduces a 'hopeless' drivers ability to react in time. Speed zones are set in the spot that bring in the most cash mainly. |
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(Comment withdrawn. Another poster already made the point).
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Best defence?
Use ya cruise control. Alternatively get a dashcam with GPS speed to prove you are innocent. There is no defence once you are over the speed limit. It is the same when overtaking. If you are caught speeding while overtaking you have no defence. There was a TV show where a bloke was caught speeding in Vic . The cops got him with a hidden camera. They then show him searching for the hidden cops to no avail. He took it to court. He maintained that he sped up to overtake as it meant less time on the wrong side of the road. The magistrate increased the fine. ![]() The reason there is no defence for speeding while overtaking is that every Tom Dick and Harry will argue they were in the overtaking lane and overtaking other vehicles. I think the cops show a lot of discretion in this area, at least that has been my experience. |
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Just imagine what the figure would be if Queensland was like NSW and Victoria and
enforced +4kph over the limit instead of +10 kph. I recon they'd double that number |
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I believe it is about 4KM/H over 100KM/H in QLD for some years now, they changed that but will not tell the public what they have truly reduced it to as they don't believe they have to be accountable to the public and they needed the extra money.
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The right hand lane by rights is for faster cars and in more advance cultures such a thing is the case. The speed limits are made for the lowest denominator and other factors in general. just because one may exceed does not mean one is being stupid or any more likely to crash at all in fact in reality. One can sit on the limit or under it and be the biggest total moron going and the chance of such morons causing problems can be far far more worse than a experienced driver in a good car who maybe doing 120 in a 100 etc. I drove a Datsun Homer once at 100km/h and I tell you what my **** was not touching the seat as I was flat to the boards hanging on to it, I could of being doing 200km/h in my car and in total control easy as. but the Law does not discriminate and that's because it's to stupid to do so and that's why morons claim every K over is a killer, fact is it's not. Stupidity is the biggest killer by far. |
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Nazis and Jews in a speed camera thread?
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Since the rivers of money from the mining boom dried up, Queensland has become an economic waste land where successive incompetent governments simply borrow more and more...
Given this situation, it is clear to me that the QPS is nothing but a revenue raising service, I’ve been nicked for going a death defying 3km/hr over the speed limit twice on downhill empty roads! Once the true extent of the costs and zero benefit of the Commonwealth Games starts to hit the already rooted bottom line then expect things to go from bad to hell. |
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"Police Commissioner Ian Stewart will today announce speed tolerances will be lowered so motorists will be fined for exceeding the limit by less.
Speed camera locations will also be officially published for the first time in changes to come into force across the state from July 1. "We need to take a stand as the road toll is unacceptably high," Mr Stewart told The Courier-Mail. "Speeding kills and we will continue to enforce the speed limit in an effort to make our roads safer for all." The Courier-Mail last year revealed Queensland drivers were given more leeway to speed than anywhere else in the country." http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226665253179 This in 2013.
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Mine is 4 k fast, so at 100 I am doing 96 but I usually set the cruise at 108 which I have never been pinged at even going through fixed or yellow trailer box radars.. Speed cameras are a Govt ATM, simple as that. Here on the Sunny Coast, the Govt could make way more money with 2 cops on every stop sign or red light, but of course that would mean more cops to employ, and the way Qld Governments spend money, they have to set up radars to get the income to pay more cops, and when they get the income, they have already spent it on another 20,000 Government employees that they did not need. |
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![]() Who wants to be under the Letter of the Law, but hey that's what is being peddled nowadays by such morons. such is in fact is the workings of dictatorial madness. How many get caught doing 1 or 2 km/h say over the tolerance is more to the point, than who was under 13KM/H. Bet you it's the most caught is under 5 KM/H over tolerance in fact. But we are not allowed to find that info out are we ![]() ![]() We are not talking about speeding here but reality and a fair suck of the sav for crying out loud. |
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QLD...speeding fines...
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Teach people how to truly drive firstly and keep their car in good service keep an eye on tyres and pressures, never heard a peep from them fools on such, Stupidity kills and that's a fact, speed is only a factor in it all and it's not the number one killer, I think it's about the 6th one down the list. |
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As of July 1 expect to get smacked for being 4kph over, the high presence on the Gold Coast Motorway was about working out how many drivers were more than 4 kph over the limit, answer = everyone. Last edited by jpd80; 16-04-2018 at 08:44 PM. |
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I know this is odd and possibly controversial, but may be stay below the limit and you will be fine.
The speed LIMIT is adeptly named, as being the limit, so I don't really get the tolerance ABOVE the LIMIT people are concerned about. The tolerance is already 0-60 or 0-100 or whatever the limit may be. For those still confused Limit definition - a point or level beyond which something does not or may not extend or pass.
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