Enrol to vote

Mark^^ · 14-10-2007, 02:28 PM

This is not a political message but a heads up to the younger people on this site, which there are a fair few.

As the election has been called today if you are over 17 you need to enrol to vote. You have until 8pm on Wednesday 17 October to get your enrolment form in. There are penalties in the way of fines if you do not enrol.

The enrolment form can be found on the AEC site

The choice is yours.

This message is NOT brought to you by the Australia Government.

gtfpv · 14-10-2007, 03:06 PM

stand up and be counted . which ever way you vote .

[dave] · 14-10-2007, 03:10 PM

wat are the fines for some1 who does not enrol

Walkinshaw · 14-10-2007, 03:14 PM

I don't think there is any fine for not enroling. However if you are not enroled it is unlawfull not to be present at a polling booth on the day of the election/absentee vote.

pertuan · 14-10-2007, 03:21 PM

I don't think there are any fines if you do not enrol. However, it is supposed to be YOUR government and they are supposed to be working for YOUR best interests. So by not enrolling and voting you're just taking your own voice away.

Remember, the best way to voice your approval/disapproval for the current government is to vote for/against them. Not voting does nothing.

gtfpv · 14-10-2007, 03:25 PM

People were never unenroled 20 years ago . i cant believe people dont want to be apart of who runs us .
sounds like we are becoming the 51st US state . about 20 % of people dont vote there . /or proabably dont know the name of thier own president . but stand by there country as the only one in the world . this is what capatalism does to people .

australians neeed to be counted . so i hope anyone not enroled rweading this , goes and enroles and votes . so that whoever gets in govt . gets there by all australians over 18.

[dave] · 14-10-2007, 03:25 PM

too easy than

Outbackjack · 14-10-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pertuan

I don't think there are any fines if you do not enrol. However, it is supposed to be YOUR government and they are supposed to be working for YOUR best interests. So by not enrolling and voting you're just taking your own voice away.

Remember, the best way to voice your approval/disapproval for the current government is to vote for/against them. Not voting does nothing.

Exactly!! And anyone that does not vote has no right to complain about anything the current government (who ever they are) does!!

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 03:35 PM

My 2 cents.... It is not law to enrol, you enrol of your own free will. It is however, illegal not to vote once you are enrolled. Work that out. I still believe this situation to be unconstitutional, or at least very unfair.

There is only one way to remove your name from Electoral roll if you remain here in Oz. Death.

So basically, if you never enrol, you never have to vote. If you do enrol, you will always have to vote.

Freedom of choice is only partially utilised in this scenario.

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

People were never unenroled 20 years ago .

Death is the only way to un-enrol.

gtfpv · 14-10-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8Master

**Removed**

i guess if you have rich parents . and intend to live in your bedroom , the rest of you life,, and never accademically get past the age of 16 . then that is perfectly fine mate.

Outbackjack · 14-10-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8Master

And if I don't ?

The world will plummet into anarchy, Australia will blow up and we won't have the right to choose what we want on the mc donnalds menu anymore ?

Perhaps you had better not vote then. I dont want this to happen.......

tapeworm · 14-10-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8Master

I have not enrolled to vote and im turning 21, I have heard nothing from the government as of yet, really I don't see how they can make me vote. I'm not wasting my time to vote for either dick head 1 or dick head 2

Same. The way I see it, either way your gonna go wrong, which defeats the purpose of voting.

Yaw · 14-10-2007, 04:41 PM

there are fines for not voting, I am unsure about enrolling, but definatley for not voting.

26. Where the elector writes to the DRO providing a
reason for not voting, and the DRO is not satisfied
that the reason provided is valid and sufficient, then
the DRO must write again to the elector advising that
the DRO is not so satisfied, and that if the elector
does not wish to have the matter dealt with by a court,
the elector may, within a specified time period, pay to
the DRO a penalty of $20. If the elector then pays to
the DRO the $20 penalty for failing to vote, the matter
ends there.
27. An elector may be prosecuted pursuant to section
245(15) for failing to vote at an election without a valid
and sufficient reason, or for making a statement in
response to a penalty notice, or to the further notice
by the DRO, that is, to his or her knowledge, false or
misleading in a material particular. The court may
impose a maximum penalty of $50.

Source;
http://www.aec.gov.au/pdf/background...ory_Voting.pdf

kenz · 14-10-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark^^

As the election has been called today if you are over 17 you need to enrol to vote.

Isnt it 18 your suppose to but you can if you want to at 17

Mark^^ · 14-10-2007, 05:39 PM

Sorry yes thats right, 17 to register and vote when your 18.

big_pete · 14-10-2007, 05:43 PM

what happens if you change your address, do you have to change it with the AEC before you can vote again?

Mark^^ · 14-10-2007, 05:48 PM

Yes I think you have to change it before 8pm Wed, but you can do it on line I think...not really sure best to check the AEC

XR8-260 · 14-10-2007, 05:56 PM

So everyone is saying that it's not compulsory to enrol to vote? That probably explains why I haven't been fined yet.

big_pete · 14-10-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark^^

Yes I think you have to change it before 8pm Wed, but you can do it on line I think...not really sure best to check the AEC

ok thanks, but what happens id i dont change it? can i vote, and if i dont will i get a fine?

gtfpv · 14-10-2007, 06:29 PM

so i gahter a few here think it doesnt matter if they enrol to vote or not .
what you're all saying with your choice not to vote . is
it doesnt matter how many hours i work. how much i get paid, when i retire, what tax i pay, how many schools there are, weather immigrants come here or not . wether they get fairness when or if they come here . if the hospital is too small for the area you live in . wether we go and bomb another country or not, if we have defence or not . wether we pay for the air we breath or not . or anything else you caN THINK OF WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT CONTROLS . none of that matters . just let it all happen .
in that case , why even have opposing governments . hey it doesn't matter right???
the sky aint gunna fall in, (well at least mum and dads spare room that i live in) , and the odds are i wont have a wife , kids mortgage, bills education, health and defence to worry about then cause lifes good . mum and dad made it so with their feet, when they vote.

congo3sr · 14-10-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by big_pete

ok thanks, but what happens id i dont change it? can i vote, and if i dont will i get a fine?

Pete,vote in your old electorate,or send an absentee vote.
cheers george

congo3sr · 14-10-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

so i gahter a few here think it doesnt matter if they enrol to vote or not .
what you're all saying with your choice not to vote . is
it doesnt matter how many hours i work. how much i get paid, when i retire, what tax i pay, how many schools there are, weather immigrants come here or not . wether they get fairness when or if they come here . if the hospital is too small for the area you live in . wether we go and bomb another country or not, if we have defence or not . wether we pay for the air we breath or not . or anything else you caN THINK OF WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT CONTROLS . none of that matters . just let it all happen .
in that case , why even have opposing governments . hey it doesn't matter right???
the sky aint gunna fall in, (well at least mum and dads spare room that i live in) , and the odds are i wont have a wife , kids mortgage, bills education, health and defence to worry about then cause lifes good . mum and dad made it so with their feet, when they vote.

Well said mate.
cheers george.

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by big_pete

what happens if you change your address, do you have to change it with the AEC before you can vote again?

You place an Absentee vote at the ballot point nearest your location on the day of the election. Or a postal vote, which you need to contact the Electoral Office about.

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3

So everyone is saying that it's not compulsory to enrol to vote? That probably explains why I haven't been fined yet.

Correct.

majin_andrew · 14-10-2007, 06:35 PM

I don't think it matters if people don't enrol to vote.
If they don't care about politics, then why should they have the opportunity to cancel out the vote of someone who does?

The number of voters doesn't effect the quality of the elected government.

Bucknaked · 14-10-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

I don't think there is any fine for not enroling. However if you are not enroled it is unlawfull not to be present at a polling booth on the day of the election/absentee vote.

At school we were told that there were fines for not enrolling. After we were old enough to vote and did enrol, we were informed that penalties only apply when you are enrolled and fail to vote.

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

At school we were told that there were fines for not enrolling. After we were old enough to vote and did enrol, we were informed that penalties only apply when you are enrolled and fail to vote.

The sneaky way of getting you on the role...

Your Teacher had an agenda.

3vXT · 14-10-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ORSMT

You place an Absentee vote at the ballot point nearest your location on the day of the election.

Last time i voted i did this and i got a letter in the mail a month later from the electoral commision (or whatever its called) saying that they had updated their details and i was now registered at my new address.

Jeeepers · 14-10-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ken2903

Last time i voted i did this and i got a letter in the mail a month later from the electoral commision (or whatever its called) saying that they had updated their details and i was now registered at my new address.

And you hadn't moved?

Gotta love a beaurocracy. I have voted interstate on absentee status. Never an issue.