Windows Vista Blows.......

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:18 PM

Big Dirty Thumbs Down to Windows Vista.
I find it annoying, hard to keep track of where you are when exploring your system, I manage to crash it every time i use it, and i have the latest top of the line Dell Desktop with more than enough to cope with the huge software size and req, and that is not running multiple APP's even!

Can i revert back to XP?
I didnt get an XP CD with my last computer, but a system recovery one with it on it, it is also a DELL, but a laptop.
Windows Vista is NOT use friendly like i was lead to believe!

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Anything i can do, should I call Dell and ask them to send me out another operating system... one that works smoothly?

DivHunter · 28-02-2007, 12:19 PM

They won't send you one.

What version of Vista do you have?

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:22 PM

umm... the hang on... checking

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:23 PM

I think this is the base one.. not sure, I wanted to see if Vista was any good before getting the premium one, but I can say, They aint getting my money!

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:24 PM

I have full release vista, 2gb of ram and latest viiv chip, no crashes, i agree a few annoying things, but i have fixed them. I do have widows vista business premium

DivHunter · 28-02-2007, 12:27 PM

Hmm not sure if you did any reading up on it first but most consider the basic version of Vista a complete waste of time.

In a lot of cases Ultimate is the only way to go. You can get the OEM or upgrade version at decent prices. Personally I'd go OEM just buy a cable or something at the same time and you can get an OEM version.

Just get someone to slipstream a copy of XP with SP2 etc in it and use that.

robs_ls1 · 28-02-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

Windows Vista is NOT use friendly like i was lead to believe!

Apparently, you're not alone in that line of thinking.

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:31 PM

Vista is like going from windows2000 to XP, yes it all a bit different, but everything is there if you look for it.

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:32 PM

I am also willing to bet that you crash it running programs not written for vista but written for windows XP?

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:33 PM

it is just a pain in the neck, I bought the new computer and vista to see how it was like, now i am regretting getting the base Vista pack, I SHOULD have gone the big banger, but thought i better try it before i upgrade you know?
anyway.
I dont get what you mean Fairmont 99.. RE: Slipstream? PM ME.

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:35 PM

no I havent installed anything but the latest Photshop.
It crashes when i try and open images off camera memory card in Paint, etc, takes FOREVER to open files that i have burnt onto CD from my old computers to transfer, pretty much using the Cd drive dont work without it shitting it's self!

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:36 PM

I will speak to my brother, he is a nerd and he should be able to do something about it all. Just wanted to vent about what i think is a waste of time and money.

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

I will speak to my brother, he is a nerd and he should be able to do something about it all. Just wanted to vent about what i think is a waste of time and money.

I will agree that vista basic is a waste of an upgrade, why people would do it is beyond me, i see no advantage to be had at all.

underthunder · 28-02-2007, 12:43 PM

I hate Windows all together... <3 my Linux

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:37 PM

How much ram did you get?
Separate video card or shared memory?

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:42 PM

it's this computer/ http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/prod...hs1&l=en&s=dhs

sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:43 PM

but i got vista instead of XP...

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sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 12:44 PM

Can I download LINUX? I have heard heaps about it but dont know what its all about.. Can I use it in place of Windows?

atec77 · 28-02-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

Can I download LINUX? I have heard heaps about it but dont know what its all about.. Can I use it in place of Windows?

http:\\www.mepis.org
down load and boot from the cd then use , if you like it then install , it wont play a few games but other wise it's excellent , good luck

Rodp · 28-02-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by atec77

http:\\www.mepis.org
down load and boot from the cd then use , if you like it then install , it wont play a few games but other wise it's excellent , good luck

Took your recommendation, couldn't even boot from the latest CD even though there seemed to be a selection for my specific motherboard to do so.

Mark down another Linux distribution that can't install on a pretty bland machine.

Quasi · 28-02-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

Can I download LINUX? I have heard heaps about it but dont know what its all about.. Can I use it in place of Windows?

We'll look forward to another thread then....complaining about how Linux is not user friendly, when you find that you have trouble with video and other drivers, and not being able to run certain programs (or even install them).

Although I know what people mean when they say stepping up (and yes, despite the bullshit spread about it Vista is a step up) is like going from W2k to Xp...but it isn't. There is very little if anything in common with XP.

Some applications (such as printer software and scanner applications) aren't compatible with Vista. You can blame the other developers and manufacturers for this, as they are responsible for ensuring their products run under the operating environment, and didn't see the necessity to work with Microsoft on this.

It is impossible for a software company such as Microsoft to come up with advancements in Windows versions if they are expected to code it so that it is purely Windows XP with different window dressing.

I've been running Vista Ultimate since Beta1 (then RC1, and then the full release). After making sure I was aware of what I had that wasn't compatible I have had no issues and runs sweet on my 3 month old laptop.

USE the web for more than surfing car forums, and research updated drivers and program patches from hardware and software companies in order to make sure you can do what you want to do on your new PC......

.....remember one thing too........WinXP copped exactly the same crap at release for the same reasons, but once everybody updated drivers and patches it became the normal thing to run.

robs_ls1 · 02-03-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Quasi

It is impossible for a software company such as Microsoft to come up with advancements in Windows versions if they are expected to code it so that it is purely Windows XP with different window dressing.

Come on man. You know it's still DOS at it's core. If you don't believe me, open a terminal window (Start -> Run -> cmd) and run the 'mem' command.

There you go. Straight from the horse's mouth. After all these years, it's still just DOS with a fancy tablecloth on it.

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Originally Posted by Quasi

I've been running Vista Ultimate since Beta1 (then RC1, and then the full release). After making sure I was aware of what I had that wasn't compatible I have had no issues and runs sweet on my 3 month old laptop.

It seems that the people who aren't having problems with Vista aren't really 'heavy' users. Anyone who tries to do any sort of CAD work seems to strike problems, as does anyone who is into the latest 3D FPS type games.

As with XP when it was first released, the best thing you can do is to wait 12 to 18 months until the hardware manufacturers catch up if you want a fully functional system.

Rodp · 02-03-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robs_ls1

Come on man. You know it's still DOS at it's core. If you don't believe me, open a terminal window (Start -> Run -> cmd) and run the 'mem' command.

There you go. Straight from the horse's mouth. After all these years, it's still just DOS with a fancy tablecloth on it.

You don't actually believe that, do you?

robs_ls1 · 02-03-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

You don't actually believe that, do you?

Did you run the 'mem' command? Because that spells it out pretty clearly...

What more proof do you need?

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28-02-2007, 12:46 PM

If your buying a computer, try to get an XP machine before all the computer retailers package Vista with everything. Its a bit too late with Dell.

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:48 PM

ok so seperate video card thats good, but did you get 1gb of ram or 2gb, i would not get any less then 2gb with vista.

EA2BA · 28-02-2007, 12:51 PM

Linux is ok, if you love programming, tweaking drivers, and don't expect to run many programs.

Tawmit · 28-02-2007, 12:59 PM

golden rule wait 12 months on anything microsoft releases.

johnydep · 02-03-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tawmit

golden rule wait 12 months on anything microsoft releases.

:hihi: After the XP experience I'd have to agree

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I was one of the first to get XP, eventually ran it on all my PC's at home & work.

Had no real problems, but the amount of updates & then Service Pack 1 in such an early stage made me realise - wait when future Windows OS is realesed.

I hear that Vista has already had security scares

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sfr rob · 28-02-2007, 01:03 PM

hahaha. Yeah gee thanks Tawmit. Got the 2gb ram upgrade.
I might just try and get some help from my brother.
thanks for reading