Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

DoreSlamR · 26-12-2013, 11:43 AM

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet...unless I missed it??

Anyway, in the latest Holden propaganda campaign, there is a shot of a designer at his desk with some images around him...

Any experts here know what we're looking at?

http://www.news.com.au/finance/busin...-1226789753684

Nanoraptor · 26-12-2013, 12:05 PM

I few rectified images from the shot above:

The bottom display/tablet:

The right wall:

The top display:

DoreSlamR · 26-12-2013, 12:44 PM

Thanks for that, looks like a two door, so probably not commodore.

b0son · 26-12-2013, 12:54 PM

There is no new commodore. it will be some rebadged Korean pile of poop.

BHDOGS · 26-12-2013, 01:12 PM

Its an advertising ploy there making a story out of nothing to get more press coverage about there "new car"

jpd80 · 26-12-2013, 01:58 PM

I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...

DoreSlamR · 26-12-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...

It's damage control.

Can't have the cruize and Captiva buyers scared off, they're the best cars for Australia they speak of aren't they???

aussie muscle · 27-12-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...

If Motoring Talk on ABC Radio is anything to go by, most non-auto people are assuming that Holden is doing a complete shutdown. That was certainly what people were ringing in to ask when ford's announcement came out. (Questions like "how long can they get parts for their Focus?")

castellan · 27-12-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...

The commodore is not going to made in australia.

But you know you can just go down to your Holden dealer and buy many types of holden that are not made in australia now, just as it has been for years.

Holden will still be selling holdens for many years to come, they will just not be made here in aus, because australia is set on the New World Order agenda and that's all that it's about.

The Stylist · 26-12-2013, 02:15 PM

The blue picture on the computer monitor looks like a stylised version of the latest Nissan Altima, however the rest share strong Opel design DNA

DoreSlamR · 26-12-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stylist

The blue picture on the computer monitor looks like a stylised version of the latest Nissan Altima, however the rest share strong Opel design DNA

How much thought do you reckon went into that shot?

Deliberate choice?

Or do you think the brief was, as long as it's not anything secret, we don't care?

The Stylist · 26-12-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

How much thought do you reckon went into that shot?

Deliberate choice?

Or do you think the brief was, as long as it's not anything secret, we don't care?

I'd say it was a tad deliberate. Holden's design team will be lending their input into GM's other design studios around the globe - somewhat similar to how Ford Australia had some design input into the latest Mustang.

But then again they're only design sketches, which may not point to anything - heck some of the sketches I pump out in my spare time would have the rumour mills spinning.

nstg8a · 27-12-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stylist

- somewhat similar to how Ford Australia had some design input into the latest Mustang.
.

I thought ford of aus had practically zero input into new mustang?

The Stylist · 27-12-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

I thought ford of aus had practically zero input into new mustang?

As far as I'm aware, staff from Ford's major design hubs around the globe submitted proposals for the new Mustang - Ford Australia included. However, I don't know how much of an Aussie influence - if any, made it into the final product.

2011G6E · 28-12-2013, 09:05 AM

The reason is simple: there is a vast number of people (I've spoken to quite a few) who seem to think that Holden is "closing" in Australia. They're not...they're just stopping building one unpopular model in the range. They're not "going out of business", but that's what a lot of people have thought is happening. Therefore, the need for this advert.

Some people thought Ford was "closing up shop" here when they said they were stopping Falcon production. Not so either.

HBWC · 26-12-2013, 02:34 PM

its going to be made in china
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-...-1226783057648

The Stylist · 26-12-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HBWC

its going to be made in china
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-...-1226783057648

Thanks for that link, although somehow I don't it will look like that Audi A7 with a poorly photoshopped Opel Insignia front end. It looks like it had a stroke.

csv8 · 26-12-2013, 05:56 PM

Next Cruze ?? or Torana!!

CyberWasp · 26-12-2013, 06:29 PM

I also think there is a Zombie from the Walking Dead in the back ground behind his monitor.

Davehoos · 26-12-2013, 10:25 PM

http://www.news.com.au/national/the-...-1226783057648

the last lines puzzle me.
sedan is dead---and we plan to make sedans cool by not building wagon or SUV.

would it not be easier to not make sedan and make wagon cool.

Davehoos · 26-12-2013, 10:33 PM

It will be great if commodore is made in china. its easier to teach them how to assemble a car and check the build quality, than for an accountant to design one.

my impression from media is that in china there is high demand for medium sized cars with leg room in the rear. OVERDUE.

Also that there is a high demand for small engines and gas powered vehicles. HIGH DEMAND HERE IN RURAL OZ.

csv8 · 26-12-2013, 10:46 PM

The VG

Bossxr8 · 26-12-2013, 11:02 PM

Is the top picture of post #2 the Coupe 60 concept car?

Looks like it.

eb2fairmont · 27-12-2013, 05:15 AM

Who cares? None of us, or a large amount of Holden owners would buy it after 2017.

CyberWasp · 27-12-2013, 08:12 AM

For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.

stevz · 27-12-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.

The ironic thing is, that if I took your post and replaced the words GM, Holden and Commodore with Ford, Falcon and Territory, I would have an equally compelling argument.

Dr Smith · 27-12-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevz

The ironic thing is, that if I took your post and replaced the words GM, Holden and Commodore with Ford, Falcon and Territory, I would have an equally compelling argument.

Except the Commodore is 3000 sales a month to Holden, and their best selling model, sadly Falcon and Terry are neither for Ford so Commodore is a bigger loss to Holden then Falcon will ever be to Ford. Plus add that Holden has played the "we're Australian cars" card for so long and will lose that instantly come 2017.

mik · 27-12-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Except the Commodore is 3000 sales a month to Holden, and their best selling model, sadly Falcon and Terry are neither for Ford so Commodore is a bigger loss to Holden then Falcon will ever be to Ford. Plus add that Holden has played the "we're Australian cars" card for so long and will lose that instantly come 2017.

yes it will be interesting to see how the football meat pies thing comes across when it is ........ play the jingle now lee ! ...................

table tennis......... bowl of rice ..........panda bears and china cars
table tennis......... bowl of rice ..........panda bears and china cars
one more time !
table tennis......... bowl of rice ..........panda bears and china cars.

LeadFoot81 · 27-12-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.

Holden and Ford are (pretty much) losing money on every locally built car. If they can continue to sell the same number of imported cars,.and Malibu/Mondeo take up (some) of the three box slack; both will be in a far better position profit wise, with no factories to run and staff.

However, it will be interesting to see what the retirement of Falcon/traditional RWD Commodore will do to sales off the rest of Ford and Holden's cars.

mik · 27-12-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

Holden and Ford are (pretty much) losing money on every locally built car. If they can continue to sell the same number of imported cars,.and Malibu/Mondeo take up (some) of the three box slack; both will be in a far better position profit wise, with no factories to run and staff.

However, it will be interesting to see what the retirement of Falcon/traditional RWD Commodore will do to sales off the rest of Ford and Holden's cars.

loosing money on local cars ?.................... don't forget toyota.