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deaths is a part of it
what's the rate of crashes though? up or down or the same? also does Queensland Police get the money from fines? |
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Well i was driving my Aurion around SEQLD school holidays i was constantly overtaken by people doing at least 10 km h more that i was doing and faster and i had cruise set right on the limit.
Now maybe my speedo is out, it has the original tyres on it still and only 20000 km. I seen a speed sign that lights up your speed i was dead on 78 in a 80 and the reading it gave me back was 72 km h. now are them radar signs correct ? i don't think so. And i don't think any radar is spot on all the time and with such small margins over it's insane and just revenue the low life gov are after. Every k over and Speed kills is the biggest load of political correct hog wash out. It's stupidity that is the real killer. |
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I think if the gov is caught up with the tolerance it should do something about it, like have radar lit speed signs everywhere so we can see if our speedo is out and all.
Them speed vans should show you your speed or what's the point if you have just passed over the limit and are still doing as such, did you know how dangerous speed is, you could be killed as every k over is a killer, you must understand that. so why don't they ? The whole point is to slow you down is it not, for the safety concern, or why would the gov put the van there in the first place surely not to try to hide and just make money and in a place where there is no danger. |
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I found that the Aurions we have at work displayed probably the most inaccurate speedo readings of the bunch. All the work cars are fitted with a calibrated digital speedo and the Aurions regularly show 8-9 kph error, i.e: speedo reading 100kph and actual vehicle speed is 91-92kph. Other makes seem to be much closer to actual speeds but bare in mind that they all read slightly faster than actual speed. Most seem to read about 3-4kph high at 100kph. Russ. |
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oh so its working then? lol
soon to be rolled out nation wide in a country near you!
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it it was about safety, then the cameras and vans would be dayglow yellow and signed, not hidden in the bushes
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I don't care if they have the cameras, but stop saying they're for ANYTHING other than revenue raising...
I put it to them that it's more dangerous to travel 5km/h under than 1km/h over. - Traffic congestion - Frustrated motorists trying to do the limit - Speedo out so could be closer to 10km/h under the limit etc. A common-sense approach in my mind would be enforce the Keep Left rule, enforce a revised speed limit based on modern day vehicles and attitudes. By all mean still have the speed cameras but have an acceptable tolerance that is in line with international standards (10%-ish or whatever it may be) and STOP the BS KNEE-JERK REACTIONS that only serve the purpose of VOTES and REVENUE RAISING. |
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I will add to your list and maybe say - Paying attention to the speedo constantly to make sure you are on the limit is more dangerous than actually doing a few clicks over and seeing your surroundings so you can avoid a potential hazard. |
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Shame the heading wasnt :
"GIVING motorists less leeway for speeding on Queensland roads has delivered an immediate effect with a 20% decrease in incidents." I don't think I have ever seen a headline that states this as a fact. Just on how much more money goes into the coffers.
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Same story, different day.
Firstly, to those who talk about speed calibration devices. Get a Satnav. They are like $100 and are accurate. And secondly, this will never end. This portrait of wanting motorists to: "If the speed limit says 60 or 100 and you look down and your speedo is even 1km over that, then you're speeding." Just stinks. The pions on the road grim to themselves as they drive slow purposefully in the right lane thinking to themselves: "I am saving your life by doing this you ingrates!" The way I see it, it is going to be black boxes for every car. I mean, think about it. What is the bottom line? It's the road toll. And since technology is getting to a point where you can fit a GPS in a watch, why wouldn't it be mandatory for every car in Aus to have Big Brother tech just itching to send you a fine for rolling down a hill at 61km/h. Maybe, just maybe, if the road toll is zero for at least 3 to 4 decades, just maybe they might raise the speed limit, but I wouldn't hold your breath. |
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I dunno about that advice mate... I have several brands of GPS from TomTom to manufacturer supplied in dash systems. All have issues from time to time, and some models just display the last acquisition speed until they get signal strength back....so if you were doing 80km/h 30 seconds ago and are now doing 100 it still shows 80. I suggest you be wary of it and only use it as a guide. A more apt approach would be to know your car and the rpm of the engine in relation to road speed. Also the americans introduce deliberate errors into the GPS sattellite system to foil enemy guidance systems, or when they bomb someone. Last edited by zilo; 26-10-2013 at 12:07 PM. |
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Why not take that further and have black boxes fitted to new cars that detect the speed limit from gps. Then it could limit speed of car. No speeding fines and no killer k's over the limit.
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Guess they would then find some other BS way to reem us.
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And the death toll will pretty much stay exactly the same as what it would be anyway.
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But Ford have apparently put something akin to a black box in the FG's. From the User Manual: ![]() |
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They'd probably have a printer in the dash of new cars and a GPS black box, every time you go over the speed limit it'll show 777 and flash and make all sorts of noises and spit out speeding fines like coins out of a pokies machine.
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Welcome to the Victorian style of the nanny state. Very easy money for Govco to be made from those menaces to society..... oops, I meant motorist.
Doing 63k's in a 60 zone really is the crime of the century and must be punished accordingly.
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I got pulled over for apparently speeding last night. It was a 40klm work zone and i passed the police bike doing 55. Totally thought it was a 60 zone as the roadworks had been paused for months and where actually nowhere near the road. I actually got off because i spun him the story I'd turned from a side street and didnt pass any signs saying 40.
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8 million dollars in the pocket of our government, not in the hands of the citizens of this country. 8 million dollars less for Australians to feed their families, 8 million less for Australian to buy products in local supermarkets to encourage economics and support local businesses, 8 million dollars less out of the pension of the retired, 8 million less out of the pocket to service and repair their vehicles for safer Australian roads.
Decrease tolerance in terms of speed detection and you decrease the attention paid to the road. By the numbers the article itself portraits it is black and white that the campaign did not encourage safer driving on Australian roads, as obviously the number of fatalities did not drop equal to the percentage of extra revenue raised, did it? On a personal note, in my line of work I get monitored by IVMS (In-Vehicle Monitoring System), that monitors my speed, harsh braking, acceleration, sharp turning, traction, 4wd engagement, journey times, etc, and our guidelines are a LOT stricter than the ones stipulated by police enforcement. However ever since the introduction of these systems I have found myself to be watching anything but the road more, speedo, signs on the road, the way i accelerate and stop, etc. In some terms it has improved my driving behavior, such as predictive driving, slowing down early and gradually, leaving more distance to vehicle in front etc, however it has also caused me to pay less attention to the road and more to the speedo and signs. I generally feel more exhausted these days after a drive as it takes a lot more concentration to not do the "wrong" thing. Did the very same trip with a vehicle and cruise control and I felt 10 times better after that trip.
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Why don't they just come clean and say the Gov told us to get more Revenue from the motorists do some good brain washing campains commercials on TV lower the tolerance on cameras get some green uniforms for the bushes So were just doing our job stop blaming us blame the Gov
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Be very careful 1 kilometre over costs you$146 in Queensland . Not my fine its from Facebook.
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Dear miscreant driver,
Your vehicle's speed through roadworks at three locations on the Logan motorway has been recorded at 22 kph over the 80 kph limit. In accordance with current Transport department giudelines, you as the registered owner are liable for all penalties and demerit points which at current stands at $1500 and 27 points, should you continue to drive after the below date of notification, you will receive a further fine of $2,500 and mandatory confiscation of your vehicle for three months. If you wish to challenge this ruling, your submission must be received within seven days of the issue date of this notice, failure to do so is an admission of guilt and that you will bear full court costs for non-atendance for the hearing held in your absence two days ago. Regards, A pr1ck, Qld Transport Date, (two weeksago land) |
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Even my doctor has more legible handwriting than that!
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Just wow, greedy ****s.
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Could it be possible the officer has just written the wrong speed on the fine. If so then it could be fought.
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