muscle car prices are falling

[cob115]

hello people this is my first post so if its all wrong please dont hurt me, : any way i reckon muscle car prices are falling if you look around you can see old school gt falcons droping in price iv also spoken to a few others who have noticed this too ,it may be the Rudd factor or xmas but a definit falling in a lot of cases

[|||]

cant wait till i can get a phase 3 for less than $100,000 again

[sleekism]

Well I'm sure all the people who grew up around these cars are starting to drop off.

I wonder how much "classic" cars from the 20's and 30's are worth now since the people who grew up around them are pretty much dead.

I wonder if 80's era cars like XE ESP and HDT Commodores are going to go up in value as generation X strats hitting retirement/mid-life crisis soon.

And then who knows 20 years time a TE50, Typhoon etc are guna be worth sumthing

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Well I'm sure all the people who grew up around these cars are starting to drop off.

I wonder how much "classic" cars from the 20's and 30's are worth now since the people who grew up around them are pretty much dead.

I wonder if 80's era cars like XE ESP and HDT Commodores are going to go up in value as generation X strats hitting retirement/mid-life crisis soon.

And then who knows 20 years time a TE50, Typhoon etc are guna be worth sumthing

The reason the 1967 to 1976 Classic musclecars (GT's/GTHO's etc) are worth so much is because of their Bathurst/motorracing herritage.. The car company's built these cars to race and win, they pioneered the era, that's why they're worth so much to so many people.
Unless its got racing history and a connection they're in a different class IMO and no where near as collectable....

[Casablanca]

dunno mate its end of the year they always drop then, then theyll bring out new model in new year and surprise the prices rise again, its just clear out time for dealerships.

[FORD3V]

Originally Posted by cob115

hello people this is my first post so if its all wrong please dont hurt me, : any way i reckon muscle car prices are falling if you look around you can see old school gt falcons droping in price iv also spoken to a few others who have noticed this too ,it may be the Rudd factor or xmas but a definit falling in a lot of cases

I reckon it is definately kevin rudds fault................

[Falcon_Phill]

Bullsh^t they are dropping. Im like a hawk everyday looking for something decent, If anything there are more dreamers out there.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

Bullsh^t they are dropping. Im like a hawk everyday looking for something decent, If anything there are more dreamers out there.

Ive said it a million times, Quality cars sell for big $$, there are allot of cars forsale, it doesnt mean they're all in a condition to attract top dollar though.
The good ones still sell for good money.

[kooky]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Ive said it a million times, Quality cars sell for big $$, there are allot of cars forsale, it doesnt mean they're all in a condition to attract top dollar though.
The good ones still sell for good money.

Agreed, but it's what people see in them, I don't think people pay 500K+ for invesment sake, or I could be totally wrong!!! :

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by cob115

hello people this is my first post so if its all wrong please dont hurt me,

WOW! First post at 7:55AM and 42 posts five hours later....not holding back mate are you?

Yes, hopefully the crazy state of Aussie muscle car prices will change soon.

[TZENU]

Realistically i cannot see the prices of these cars comming into reach of the average joe anymore... Sure the prices will fluctuate but they will do so on the high end of the scale...

[uranium_death]

I think the price of the HOs will go down a little. 1 million I don't believe is truly indicative of its value.

I think all those TT and ACA "scoops" shriveled some frontal lobes and people paid big bucks even for rust-bucket rollers.

But the good cars, due to scarcity are still worth good money.

[JD86]

i hope the prices come down but havnt noticed it

i dont think a phase 3 will ever be under 100K ever again

even people my age (21) appreciate them for what they are so just because the people who grew up around them might not be around much longer, these cars are still very saught after

[T3ts50]

I dont see the prices coming down anytime soon but there are alot of over zealous people trying to sell their cars for a ridicolous price, for example a VS GTSR for 80k+.

[GRNKPR]

prices are levelling out and the guys that want and pay top dollar have got their quota s ,prices will settle down as demand isnt as desired .Good cars will still get good money and always will but most of the eagerness has settled !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GTP290]

in 97 i bought a mint xygt replica, with geniune parts(except engine) i paid 15000 dollars for
it back then, and in 2001 i had to sell it, i sold it for 14000 dollars, after putting a new front end(suspension)
now i think a decent replica with geniune ford parts(eg shaker, dash, wheels, mirrors etc) would be worth atleast 40000 if not more. musclecars are like real estate, theyrise then they peak, then rise again, then peak. i dare say my current car,(ba gtp)
will be worth a lot more in 10 years time than what i paid for it now, if its low kms and
in showrrom condition.
the only thing that worries me is the price and availability of unleaded fuel, but then again i just read that scientists predict the northern ice polar cap will be completely gone within 7 years so theres a lot more to worry about than the price of fuel in ten years time i guess!

[MAFIA]

Originally Posted by gtp 2003

musclecars are like real estate, they rise then they peak, then rise again, then peak.

Your right about this and at the moment muscle car prices are at a steady rate but it will take of again soon.

[Falcon_Phill]

Whys it always have to be about Phase 3's? 99% of us here will never be able to get one, so why go on about them so much? Id be happy to find a nice V8 XR, not some car that costs $600 000 that works exactly the same as a $20 000 variant. I cant even find a nice 6cyl XR without 12 buckets of rust in it for some ridiculous price.

[Quasi]

Most of us will never have the dollars to own a piece of Aussie motoring history like that, and to honest that's fine by me.....I've been in love with these cars since they were released new, and don't feel I have to own one to feel that way.

[Nappa]

now it seems more and more people are trying to cash in with the new limited FPV's
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-cars...9%204294966238

[Sprint347]

I think prices will drop as the market normalises.

Real rarities like the RPO83, HO's will always be strong in value... but the market for tagless/rough/replica cars will die back, especially as interest rates rise and wonderful things like Kyoto come into effect

[4Vman]

Prices wont drop, they may level out because the market has settled and the hysteria has dropped off for the moment, that's all.

[Scott]

The top end has flattened it seems but the mid-price is alive and kicking. A Black & Manual VC Brock just had bids of ~$130k on it. It seems the stupid prices being asked for on HK/T/G Monaro's, XA/B/C Coupes which come with plenty of rust, no tags, wrong engines and missing bits have settled back down a bit too.

The top end of the game is just that sometimes, a game. What a car is worth or has sold for is sometimes just a story created by the buyers trying to inflate their investment.

Give it a little while and the top end will waiver - only those with the deepest pockets will weather the storm.

[GRNKPR]

Musclecars arnt like Property !!!!!!! Ever tried to get $600 000 for a car of the bank ????????

[GTP290]

Originally Posted by GRNKPR

Musclecars arnt like Property !!!!!!! Ever tried to get $600 000 for a car of the bank ????????

its all relative to your income and assets, you could get a mortgage for 600000 dllars on car if you earn enough

[Jack91]

Well, there's more old cars on he road now then there ever was, people are starting to find them in old barns and sheds and snatching them up. So, there are more around, but I haven't really noticed a big drop in prices.

[JC]

Originally Posted by 93_eb_fairmont

Well, there's more old cars on he road now then there ever was, people are starting to find them in old barns and sheds and snatching them up. So, there are more around, but I haven't really noticed a big drop in prices.

That's impossible. How can there be more old cars than ever before. When the old cars were new, there was whatever number of them produced, then you take away all the ones that died and you're left with the number today - can't possibly be more.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by JC

That's impossible. How can there be more old cars than ever before. When the old cars were new, there was whatever number of them produced, then you take away all the ones that died and you're left with the number today - can't possibly be more.

I think he means more replicas???

I remember reading something in Australian Muscle Car Magazine about there being something like 20 times more GTHO replicas then there are actual GTHO's produced in Sydney alone.

I think a lot of former six cylinder Falcons have since sprouted Cleveland 351's.

For that matter where does everybody get their Cleveland motors from are they all reconditioned motors??

I know you can get aftermarket Windsor crate engines but I haven't seen any Clevos.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by sleekism

For that matter where does everybody get their Cleveland motors from are they all reconditioned motors??

I know you can get aftermarket Windsor crate engines but I haven't seen any Clevos.

Have a look here:

http://www.pavtek.com.au/index.php?o...d=18&Itemid=19

http://www.trickandmanswetoracing.co...-packages.html

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by sleekism

I remember reading something in Australian Muscle Car Magazine about there being something like 20 times more GTHO replicas then there are actual GTHO's produced in Sydney alone.

Umm.... I think you'll find that was tongue in cheek.....