The Human Race

[DoreSlamR]

So this may be pretty deep but i'm interested to find out what people think of the subject.
Had a family dinner tonight and got talking to my uncle who has a doctorate in geology and also very clued into a lot of enviromental issues and subjects.
We got to talking about global warming.
He was telling me, that, at the rate we are going now the world will be a very different place in just a few hundred years. It already has changed in the last 50 with small islands dissapearing etc.
At this rate, It's hard to see the human race or any living creature survive thousands of years let alone a few hundred.

so i ask the question.
How long do YOU think the human race will last?

[The Monty]

Not long at all. 100 or 200 more years. War will break out, resulting in massive amounts of death, or the world itself will just simply "give up", there will be massive weather changes, resulting in massive amounts of death. Looks "great" either way really.

[2Fast2FuriousDude]

Yeah, the Human Race will come to an end one day, I can't see us making it to the next millenium (Year 3000) Unfortune, but can't do much about it.
Enjoy life whilst we can I reckon.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

at the rate we are going now the world will be a very different place in just a few hundred years. It already has changed in the last 50 with small islands dissapearing etc.?

This looks like a fun thread, doom and gloom, I am on the other side of the fence, above the world will be a different place, take 1807 and saying in 200 years ( 2007 now) the world would be a differnt place.

Sure is we can live in nice houses, we dont have to get around smelling the back end of a horse, fly between countries instead of being on a wooden sailing boat, cure most diseases with a simple pill that would have back then cost your life, we didnt even have a telephone , let alone chat rooms to bring the people of the world together, and i believe there are plenty of good kids up and coming who do give a dam and will keep it all happenig and yes it will be different in 200 years from now.

Our internet chat room will look like morse code our cars made look like some old horse and cart where people will probably wonder why we used petrol engines as they have some nutron zapper radiomagic fuel.

This doom and gloom stuff really is painful to listen to, sounds like a great dinner party, lets see fill em with doom n gloom, sorry but it would have been livley dinner if i were at the table. :

[DoreSlamR]

It wasnt all doom and gloom we were discussing many topics such as alternate energy, recycling water, bowls,football and golf and of course global warming.
It just had me thinking thats all, i know it is a doom and gloom subject but as long as water comes out of our taps and lights come on when we flick a switch, no one really cares and is that really right?

[DOC]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

It wasnt all doom and gloom we were discussing many topics such as alternate energy, recycling water, bowls,football and golf and of course global warming.
It just had me thinking thats all, i know it is a doom and gloom subject but as long as water comes out of our taps and lights come on when we flick a switch, no one really cares and is that really right?

All good champ, just another view, but who says no one cares ? I'm sure if a study was done you find 1000's of people around the globe all caring about the animals, water . power and just about every other topic you could lay a hand on.

good subject to discuss, but if there are any doom and gloomers out there maybe, that if it really is what they they think then they should all get together on an island ( one thats going to disapear in 200 years ) as it won't matter and leave the positive people to get on with making this a better place for all.

[Green X]

In a Nut shell we are ****** mate

Look at where we are heading and how we are operating, if we are to survive we need to reduce the population something stupid and stop running by the $ cause it isn’t going to last, we haven’t got the room and we haven’t got the recourses.

But hell that will never happen, IMO if we keep on the way we are going this current generation will be the last to have it good.

Hell I am no greenie I drive a 4WD and a XR6 Turbo, I don’t believe I can change the world but I am smart enough to know I can’t change it ether.

[exrtnz]

Yeah , but if we can get away from need for oil to make fuel , and run on lpg or whatever on the same as or more powerful cars than now and within the next 15 years then that would help. And get rid of those coal power stations for nuclear ones will cut down on huge amounts of polution. just my thoughts anyway

[gregfx]

Have you all been reading churchie hand outs??? Watched the Matrix too many times and think now is the best time on Earth?

I find it hard to believe that with all the knowledge accumulated over time, that in the future they won't have resolutions for todays issues?

Todays issues will be irrelevant. What were the issues 100 years ago? What will be the issues in 100 years? Probably only socially similar.

It will be still be Ford/Holden, Light/Dark, Strong/Weak.

The Earth has existed for billions of years, surely it cant be destoyed in a few hundred by insignificant humans who have spent the least time on it.

[mik]

, the population is outa control,2 thirds of the world still thinks mythical gods will save them(the new millenium), if we don`t get blown up.......... or get drowned,starved or cancered to death(global warming) or killed by some other modern black plague we will be lucky, we are still pretty dumb even with all the technology, spin the bottle, perhaps mother nature will retaliate and big time in the next 500 years and kill 90 % of the polluters on the planet(humans) and then slowly heal the global warming thing and we will start over again (horse and cart), who knows, i`m not gonna lose any sleep over it too busy thinkin how i`m gonna mount 2 turbo`s on my xr6_2:

[MITCHAY]

Who gives a ****! I'll be long dead so it don't mean anything to me :

[bob^]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Who gives a ****! I'll be long dead so it don't mean anything to me :

And then you have kids, who have grandkids that you watch grow up. Then we will see if it means anything to you.

I don't think it will be as bad as people make it out to be. Terrorism will go out of fashion one day, they will think of something else.

[Ford_Boy]

Originally Posted by mik

, the population is outa control,2 thirds of the world still thinks mythical gods will save them(the new millenium), if we don`t get blown up.......... or get drowned,starved or cancered to death(global warming) or killed by some other modern black plague we will be lucky, we are still pretty dumb even with all the technology, spin the bottle, perhaps mother nature will retaliate and big time in the next 500 years and kill 90 % of the polluters on the planet(humans) and then slowly heal the global warming thing and we will start over again (horse and cart), who knows, i`m not gonna lose any sleep over it too busy thinkin how i`m gonna mount 2 turbo`s on my xr6_2:

2 thirds? try 95 percent of the world believe in atleast a higher being. I'm no churchie but the bible has never been proven wrong. The da vinchi code doesn't count either lol

[Serial_Fool]

Maybe a Mad Max themed nuclear future? Quick everyone get a Falcon XB Coupe!!!!

I shotgun the Mack.

[AU2PWR]

meh , i dont reackon the human race will see 200 years .. Global Warming , Stupid Ideas to Put Nuclear Reactors around the joint without haveing a 100% foolproof plan of storing the waste and Nuclear Power being a Terrorists best Target ...

If it aint Broken , Dont Fix it ...

[eb_5litre]

Yeah the Earth will eventually die, but it'll be a good view from space.

[tickford2001]

Life's a game...play it!

[nugget378]

End of the earth scenarios have been getting around for thousands of years,in the 50's-80's it was nuclear armageddon,dont pay too much attention to it or you'll get nothing done.
Maybe thats the whole point of these scenarios..

[Fordman1]

Humanity will survive & evolve.

Who knows what the top life form on this plant will look like in 10 million years.

Life always finds a way............

[Green X]

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"Yeah , but if we can get away from need for oil to make fuel"

The problem is Fuel is not the only product to come from Oil.

Australia is a desert and we are still growing the population, Running out of water, OK desal plants, righto then what happens to all the excess salt and **** we pump back into the ocean, how long before that starts affecting the Marian environment?

The point is everything man does has an affect and everything we do to counter that affect, affects something else.

People on hole are idiots, as somebody else said it’s the 21’s century, and 2 thirds of the world still thinks mythical gods will save them.

[Dazza XLT]

Originally Posted by Green X

Running out of water, OK desal plants, righto then what happens to all the excess salt and **** we pump back into the ocean, how long before that starts affecting the Marian environment?

Start processing the salt for export. Everyone needs salt!

[AU2PWR]

were only here for a good time , not a long time

[DoreSlamR]

Thanks for all the replys guys, i guess i was in an odd mood last night. its interesting to see all these different opinions

[Outbackjack]

The earth has a finite life. It will one-day come to an end. No-one knows when. But if humans play a hand in it's demise, the one thing that we can all count on is that religion will play a part in it somewhere. Otherwise I think that humans are evolving along quite well.

[EF, What else?]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

The earth has a finite life. It will one-day come to an end. No-one knows when. But if humans play a hand in it's demise, the one thing that we can all count on is that religion will play a part in it somewhere. Otherwise I think that humans are evolving along quite well.

Couldnt agree more, either the religions of the world fighting it out, or the secular world duking it out to eliminate religion.

[GTWHOA]

renewable energy is the go. To bad the people with the power to change it dont care about future generations.

[King Nothing]

Originally Posted by DVL40L

renewable energy is the go. To bad the people with the power to change it dont care about future generations.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this typical greenie uneducated garbage out:

Do you know what Howard is working on right now? Ever heard of clean coal? Renewable energy sources, like solar and wind, will never be able to sustain our current way of life alone, let along sustain any development. The people in power are working on realistic solutions like clean coal, and it is in the country's best interest. Australia has a crapload of coal, something like 800 years worth at predicted future expansion rates. It is in our best interest to get clean coal technology off the ground. Otherwise we lose out big time, as coal is a huge export for Australia. If everybody looked for the obvious solutions (purely solar, wind) then we would be up the proverbial creek.

Howard is trying to get the chinese government, which along with india is one of the quickest expanding and most energy intensive countries in the world, to sign on for the development of clean coal technology.

I'm not saying that solar, wind etc power won't work, they will be part of a larger system. Just do some reading before you make judgements!

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[Spotty]

Originally Posted by King Nothing

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this typical greenie uneducated garbage out:

Do you know what Howard is working on right now? Ever heard of clean coal? Renewable energy sources, like solar and wind, will never be able to sustain our current way of life alone, let along sustain any development. The people in power are working on realistic solutions like clean coal, and it is in the country's best interest. Australia has a crapload of coal, something like 800 years worth at predicted future expansion rates. It is in our best interest to get clean coal technology off the ground. Otherwise we lose out big time, as coal is a huge export for Australia. If everybody looked for the obvious solutions (purely solar, wind) then we would be up the proverbial creek.

Howard is trying to get the chinese government, which along with india is one of the quickest expanding and most energy intensive countries in the world, to sign on for the development of clean coal technology.

I'm not saying that solar, wind etc power won't work, they will be part of a larger system. Just do some reading before you make judgements!

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I think there will be a range of responses to address CO2 emmissions and the heating of the earth and that we cant rely on just one fix. Clean coal technology will possibly part of the solution but will take some time to be available. I'm not convinced Howard or any other politcian is independant enough from the influence of big business to make the tough decisions that are neccesscary. No matter which party is in power, this country is run by influential business people , not the people we vote for. These people put profits and themselves ahead of anything else and it is not in their interests or perhaps australias economic interests to make the immediate climate response related changes that are neccssecary. Its all very frustrating and very very sad. I am cautiously optimistic about our futures but unfortuneatly at the moment I cant see the sense of urgency to make big changes.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by King Nothing

Ever heard of clean coal?

Ha ha thats funny must be good soap. it will never be clean just less dirty.
Muja power station. W.A's main base load power station (coal powered) is burning wood chips in their A and B units at this very moment with no filtration at all just straight into the atmosphere ( they must be be on to something) . Their other 2 units with ash precipitaters burn 400 tons an hour or 3.5 million tons a year . and thats only one coal powered station.
Kemerton their newest gas powered peaking station uses 80,000 liters of fuel oil a day due to the lack of natural gas.

But in any event life will go on, what form it takes who knows im off to enjoy a beer.

As far as im aware the sun in out solar system will eventualy die taking earth with it, wether were still here or not is a diffrent story our future lies out into space wether it be for resources or in a billion years when our sun dies either way our planet will die as has been said life will carry on wether its out there now is up to debate. We could be living on other planets or died out long ago who knows maybe an astroid crashes into another livable planet millions of years away carrying some biological dna from an ancient species called humans that once lived those million so years ago on some insignifcant rock and starts the cycle again. hell maybe god himself will pop down to stop the suns explosion with his cool powers LOL but i personaly give us about another 500 to 1000 years once bush is out of office that is if he gets re-elected then about 100.