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Old 05-04-2010, 07:42 PM   #1
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I thought that it would be a good idea to have a thread that highlights some of the ridiculous rules and regulations that are being imposed on us.

Please add links to news stories and government press releases that show stupid laws, OH&S rules and anything else designed to target the lowest common denominator.

Please leave political arguments out as the thread will be closed by mods.



Here’s a few to start with.

http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/lo...s/1792107.aspx

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertai...-1225848763137

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregul...peedlimit.html

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Speed limit reductions are rediculous!

Here on the Sunshine Coast on the stretch of Bruce Highway outside the Ettamogah Pub the Limit has been reduced from 110 to 100. and its only for this stretch.

Due to the fact the government force the builders of the Pub to make its Access points adequate. They deem the Exit dangerous and short.. which it is! so why not fix the exit!

Stupid Gumbyment bandaid fixes!
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Speed limit reductions are rediculous!

Here on the Sunshine Coast on the stretch of Bruce Highway outside the Ettamogah Pub the Limit has been reduced from 110 to 100. and its only for this stretch.

Due to the fact the government force the builders of the Pub to make its Access points adequate. They deem the Exit dangerous and short.. which it is! so why not fix the exit!

Stupid Gumbyment bandaid fixes!
Have to agree..that is one dangerous on ramp. Too short, and for drivers traveling north, bugger all warning that it is all happening on their left.
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Best link I can find on this one., It has been a while on smart moves.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2006/s1780096.htm
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Now they want to ban Picture, Zoo, Playboy and Penthouse from newsagents.

http://news.syd.ninemsn.com.au/natio...-child-experts
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Now they want to ban Picture, Zoo, Playboy and Penthouse from newsagents.

http://news.syd.ninemsn.com.au/natio...-child-experts
Zoo doesnt even have nudity does it? I remember when it first came out they were giving free magaines away to everyone.
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Now they want to ban Picture, Zoo, Playboy and Penthouse from newsagents.

http://news.syd.ninemsn.com.au/natio...-child-experts
Why don't they go and ban the internet, you can easily "accidentally" come across things worse than Zoo, Playboy and Penthouse.... Oh wait, I forgot they're already trying to censor the internet :
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bicycle helmets. i know they are safer etc, but who here used to love flting down the biggest hill in the neighbourhood with the wind in their hair? wouldnt be so bad, but they are compulsory in WA even when on a cycle path.
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Could not find a approriate article because the law is a couple years old .
An its the ban of lead shot for quail and duck shooting .

Alcopops is another
Another trying to ban smoking in the street
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/...6721_news.html
And in frankston it banned now
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/smo...-1225828040127

An the beaches are next

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Could not find a approriate article because the law is a couple years old .
An its the ban of lead shot for quail and duck shooting .

Alcopops is another
Another trying to ban smoking in the street
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/...6721_news.html
And in frankston it banned now
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/smo...-1225828040127

An the beaches are next
Smokers have as much right to cloud me in their second hand smoke as I do to spit on them.

Thoughtless Smokers annoy the hell out of me
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@RG,don't start that one up again. You know as well as I do if the gov't was fair dinkum then they'ed stop production of tobacco and imports.
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@RG,don't start that one up again. You know as well as I do if the gov't was fair dinkum then they'ed stop production of tobacco and imports.
And stop the income from the massive taxes?

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@RG,don't start that one up again. You know as well as I do if the gov't was fair dinkum then they'ed stop production of tobacco and imports.

If they do that then booze will be next. Oh wait they wont put stupid taxes on alcohol and then slowly make it socially unacceptable then ban it from everywhere......
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If they do that then booze will be next. Oh wait they wont put stupid taxes on alcohol and then slowly make it socially unacceptable then ban it from everywhere......
there trying to push goon/wine to tripple the price, sorry teenie bobbers...
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Smokers have as much right to cloud me in their second hand smoke as I do to spit on them.

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Fair enough . Im a smoker and i dont like someone blowing smoke in my face.
But as a australian citizen dont you think i have the right to sit on a empty park bench in the street or sit on the beach and have a cigarette if i wish .

I dont intend on invading anyones space but the way things are headed im not going to be able to leave my house until i manage to quit smoking .
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Fair enough . Im a smoker and i dont like someone blowing smoke in my face.
But as a australian citizen dont you think i have the right to sit on a empty park bench in the street or sit on the beach and have a cigarette if i wish .

I dont intend on invading anyones space but the way things are headed im not going to be able to leave my house until i manage to quit smoking .
I agree. If it is legal to buy and consume tobacco products, why shouldn't you be able to smoke in the open as long as you dispose of the butts and your not breathing it out onto someone.

The day they ban smoking in open areas had better be the same day they ban the sale of tobacco products.

(note: I'm not a smoker, I just don't like hypocrisy :P)

This alcopop bs is obviously a money grab. What's next? beer? wine? If teens want to drink they will find a way, I doubt the cost is an issue especially if it's split four ways.

Don't get me started on the internet filter (read censorship). Small breasted women are now considered RC (refused classification) as they may 'resemble' a child and liable to be blocked if the filter gets through. That's a far cry from the beastiality, pro rape CP etc (that you'd be hard pressed to find anyway) that CONroy likes to babble on about. Funny how he seems to always miss the other not so illegal stuff that would be blocked also.

I can't believe such a thing is even being considered in Australia....

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Fair enough . Im a smoker and i dont like someone blowing smoke in my face.
But as a australian citizen dont you think i have the right to sit on a empty park bench in the street or sit on the beach and have a cigarette if i wish .

I dont intend on invading anyones space but the way things are headed im not going to be able to leave my house until i manage to quit smoking .
The problem is most smokers believe it is their god given right to walk down a crowded street ciggy hanging by their side and leaving a trail of smoke as they go along.

The ones that do this along known running paths are the worst as when you're really sucking in wind the last thing you need is a lung full of smoke.

Perhaps payback with BO is in order
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The problem is most smokers believe it is their god given right to walk down a crowded street ciggy hanging by their side and leaving a trail of smoke as they go along.

The ones that do this along known running paths are the worst as when you're really sucking in wind the last thing you need is a lung full of smoke.

Perhaps payback with BO is in order
Maybe cyclists have an argument too... How dare cars drive around spewing out fumes? Last thing they need is a lung full of carbon monoxide.

I guess we better ban cars.


I dont see the problem walking in a crowded street with a ciggy. Some food smells worse to me than what cigarette smoke does. I dont complain when I'm walking along Lygon street passed the restaurants and one is particularly pongy.

Better stop food smell from reaching the streets because the smell of meat might offend the vegans of our city.
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The problem is most smokers believe it is their god given right to walk down a crowded street ciggy hanging by their side and leaving a trail of smoke as they go along.

The ones that do this along known running paths are the worst as when you're really sucking in wind the last thing you need is a lung full of smoke.

Perhaps payback with BO is in order
And guess what ... while its legal, to all the non smokers ... suck it up. :
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I dont intend on invading anyones space but the way things are headed im not going to be able to leave my house until i manage to quit smoking .
With the way things are going towards smokers, it won't be too long before you aren't allowed to even do that.
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Ive also heard it illegal to change a light bulb unless your a quailified electrian in Vic
Ive googled it heaps of links but find a official one
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And while the world is starting to see us as a nanny state, they are probably starting to think we have no sence of humor....

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i would think we live in an arrogant state, not a nanny state
when i was a kid, the penthouses and playboys were towards the back of milk bars. there wasn't as many and we had to go out of our way to look at them and of course the owner would set us straight if we were looking. i guess the people complaining of these magazines feel that 12 year old girls wearing porn star t-shirt are inappropriate too. no doubt our aff members think that is ok. as well as make up, eating disorders etc. from such a young age

it is a horrible world we live in when smokers rights are violated to the point they cannot smoke on the street. how horrible for them, that since they were quite happy to violate my rights of fresh air, they now are the bad guys. boo hoo


these rules come in for one reason. because some of our perfect citizens take the current rules too far because they consider themselves more important than the next person. be it road, censorship, polluting air - if people had respect, then we would not be heading so fast into a nanny state. i say so fast, because although this will surprise many people here, but the nanny state rules have been happening ever since they stopped feeding christians to the lions at colliseum. i am sure some of the more wealthy people screamed nanny state or the equivalent when that happened. same as when traffic lights, car rego, pub closing times etc. etc. etc. were introduced. as always though this generation can only think of itself and believes it is the only one that has had rights taken away for whatever reasons
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Well the thing that really p***** me off about our rights/priveleges being eroded is...what about all those that died fighting for us to keep them was it all in vain!

I bloody hope not. Its time for the silent majority to become the very vocal majority.
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Well the thing that really p***** me off about our rights/priveleges being eroded is...what about all those that died fighting for us to keep them was it all in vain!

I bloody hope not. Its time for the silent majority to become the very vocal majority.

Yes! we may of won the war.
But we are loosing the battle.
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But we are loosing the battle.
She will be right mate. :monkes:
Then we should tighten it!
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Well the thing that really p***** me off about our rights/priveleges being eroded is...what about all those that died fighting for us to keep them was it all in vain!

I bloody hope not. Its time for the silent majority to become the very vocal majority.
Mo, I'm hoping everybody remembering our fallen next week won't be thinking they died to preserve our right to "smoke in the street". I have a feeling it was all about a little more than coming up with some rules and regulations that favoured more than just the minority of us.
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Well the thing that really p***** me off about our rights/priveleges being eroded is...what about all those that died fighting for us to keep them was it all in vain!

I bloody hope not. Its time for the silent majority to become the very vocal majority.
On the subject of this, the old law of unintended consequences comes into play here.

They have changed the liquor licensing laws to try and stop some of the clowns who come out of nightclubs totally tanked turning up to the Anzac Day dawn service. Well what they didn’t think of is that many of the veterans try and get together before the march and have a quiet one at Young and Jackson’s. It’s been a tradition for many of the fellas for years. Well now that Y and J’s can’t open before 2:00 PM (I think) these fellas can’t have their little get together.

All because of some moron in Spring Street who knows what’s best for them.
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