Thread: Covid 19 -
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Old 05-12-2021, 08:53 AM   #17099
leesa
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Originally Posted by nstg8a View Post
Do you really want to live in a society where your access to medical help is based on your lifestyle choices?

So if you’re a smoker you don’t get help? Obese? Nah, back of the queue for you….

Medical help should always be a need based system, regardless of people’s personal choices.
That's an interesting point of view considering that most antivaxxers believe their (clean) lifestyle choices are the thing that will prevent them from a serious outcome once infected. Why would they need medical help if their immune system is so good it will knock out covid before it even makes them sick?

That aside... noone wants to live in that world you propose... but the need for medical care will outstrip the capacity to supply it so we will have no choice really. So far I haven't heard of a single country's medical system that has had the capacity to deal with covid patients AND other regular care like heart attacks, strokes, cancer diagnosis and treatment, etc. Those unvaccinated covid patients.... with a preventable condition.... will take a bed from someone who's had a stroke. Someone who will probably die who might otherwise have survived if they'd received medical care in time. If it wasn't given to someone else.

Medical care will be triaged and we're all lucky enough to have lived in a society where everyone eventually gets seen but now some people seem to think that it can scale significantly to cover a pandemic as well as its regular load?!
If the numbers of unvaccinated people remains high, they will eventually get sick and may need a bed. Do you really want to live in a world where maybe your mother, father, wife or brother has a car accident and can't get medical help in time because of an anti-vaxxer's life choices? there's one bed left so who does it go to?

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The only consequence from not getting the jab should be the higher risk of getting a serious case of the covids.
But that's fantasy and it won't play out like that in real life, there will be far more consequences if hospitals reach capacity. Preventing those people from receiving medical care ahead of a vaccinated person would actually be closer to that scenario that you propose, then it really would be the 'only consequence'. That's why the government is pushing so hard on this, your lifestyle choices affect other people.
 
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