[prydey]

Thanks, as always.

Sounds like sticking with Ech20 might be the go.

I would probably still baulk at rinseless on my car, even though my car is worth significantly less than my van. I use it on the van mainly due to convenience. It's parked on dirt so rinseless makes less mess, and I don't have a hose long enough to reach.

I use it at 1:10 on my bike and it works well.